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#2723647 - 05/13/09 07:55 AM Avsim Hacked  
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A message from Tom Allensworth at Avsim as relayed from SimFlight:

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PRESS RELEASE:

AVSIM Hacked

Tom Allensworth, CEO and Publisher of AVSIM, today issued the following announcement; “We regret to inform the flight simulation community that on Tuesday, May 12, AVSIM was hacked and effectively destroyed. The method of the hack makes recovery difficult, if not impossible, to recover from. Both servers, that is the library / email and web site / forum servers were attacked. AVSIM is totally offline at this time and we expect to be so for some time to come. We are not able to predict when we will be back online, if we can come back at all. We will post more news as we are able to in the coming days and weeks.


source: http://forums.simflight.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=76173&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

Sad indeed. Nobody deserves that and there's never anything funny about it. Whoever is responsible is a real credit to the human genome.


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#2723698 - 05/13/09 11:02 AM Re: Avsim Hacked [Re: Varmint]  
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When they come back I'll donate them a few bucks. Never did, albeit my downloads more and more switched from flightsim.com over to avsim.com, and stuff like this shows what a large amount of work it was.

Surprised though that they can't simple recover from tape or other offline backup to a status a week or two earlier. A hacker should not be able to target off-site files, and any good web hoster will have that kind of safety net.

#2723805 - 05/13/09 02:20 PM Re: Avsim Hacked [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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Tom stated that they backed up their data "between servers". Not a good thing to do and I am sure they are regretting that strategy now. Hopefully they'll still be able to recover something despite this.

#2723892 - 05/13/09 04:21 PM Re: Avsim Hacked [Re: pitbldr]  
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I've done that too in the past, but with a weekly "to external USB drive" strategy as an added failsafe. Slightly surprised to see that such a professional website had ZERO offline backup.

#2723988 - 05/13/09 06:34 PM Re: Avsim Hacked [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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I found it very surprising they have (had) no offline backup scheme... especially with the amount of data they probably had on their server. There are some very affordable backup options these days, so not reason not to have that.

#2724077 - 05/13/09 09:03 PM Re: Avsim Hacked [Re: pitbldr]  
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#2724124 - 05/13/09 10:11 PM Re: Avsim Hacked [Re: Weird_Crapolla]  
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A number of users, including myself, were commenting on spam we received on behalf of First Class Simulations (some store). The topic was started because it was unsolicited email and seemed to involve email addresses which had never been used anywhere but Avsim. A few were accusing Avsim, and some of the staff were denying/condemning it. Well it seems they were completely oblivious to it.

Prior to the incident with the spam, Avsim had contracted a guy by the name of Phil Dawson who has ties to SimFly (and the beneficiary of the spam). Apparently he was to make some "changes" to their servers (with root admin access) to unify the file library and forums under a shared username/password schema, perform optimizations, etc. What Avsim wasn't made aware of was that he had harvested untold numbers of email addresses, without permission, and proceeded to use them immediately. Whether he profited from them or not is irrelevant, as he violated the laws of any number of countries in not only acquiring them, but subsequently disseminating the data. God knows what else he got his hands on.

This individual was forthwith fired. Low any behold the site goes down. Coincidence? Maybe. Avsim is looking into tracing the logs, but given their apparent poor backup standards, maybe they'll never be able to prove it.

If you have any shared usernames/passwords that you used at Avsim, and you use them in other venues, you might want to change them. I can only assume that since he was actually working on a system to unify those data, he must have had access to more than email addresses.


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#2724777 - 05/14/09 08:14 PM Re: Avsim Hacked [Re: Varmint]  
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I guess once again we have see the reason why to - BACK THAT THANG UP!

Sorry for your loss! A bunch of smart, mean and bored people out there.


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#2724843 - 05/14/09 09:55 PM Re: Avsim Hacked [Re: X_MAN]  
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I just came to say I can't believe they backed up one server to another and vice versa. As a network engineering student, that is just idiotic to say the least. They pretty much made themselves extremely vulnerable and/or were very arrogant not to have tape backups or backups to an offline machine at the very least. God... idiots.


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#2724937 - 05/15/09 01:31 AM Re: Avsim Hacked [Re: simpliciter]  
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Well this just sucks. A lot of hard work by many hundreds, if not thousands of people over the years is now gone. I would guess that for many of the files that were on that site, there is no other copy out there. As an avid FS2004/FSX player, this was not a good thing to see.

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#2725580 - 05/15/09 11:09 PM Re: Avsim Hacked [Re: X_MAN]  
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Originally Posted By: X_MAN
I guess once again we have see the reason why to - BACK THAT THANG UP!

Sorry for your loss! A bunch of smart, mean and bored people out there.


"Smart mean and bored" is a good name for a band


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#2726512 - 05/17/09 09:16 PM Re: Avsim Hacked [Re: simpliciter]  
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Weird. Around May 12th one of my computers got a virus and the other just turned off and wouldn't come back on. I spent the last 4 or 5 days trying to get one of them working again. Ended up putting the 2nd hard drive for storage on the virus infected one and installing XP again without reformatting. Any suggestions on a new place for my scripts and profiles?


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