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#3582221 - 05/29/12 01:33 PM Re: Screenshots ***** [Re: Stormtrooper]
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the word "simulation" can mean a lot of things. for some people it means simulation of technical data(F-18 can do mach 1.8 and no more! ), historical data ( there is no F-16 in the year 1965! )...
for some people it means simulation of technical theories ( acceleration = force / mass )... and a 3D model of aircraft is just a shell that looks nicer than the "X-Y-Z" symbols.
i don't mind an F22 doing VTOL like F35 or an F18 flying in the outer space, as long as the shell looks pretty.
i prefer a single 90%-correct-looking 3D model with 1000 historically-wrong functions than 1000 pieces of 60%-correct-looking 3D models with historically-correct functions in the package, which can easily be found on the internet.
so if you see a guy made an outer space flight game with an F-18 model, don't think he is an idiot who believes there is plenty of oxygen in the outer space. he may be smarter and more knowledgable than any "expert" whom you believe in.

some "expert" would say: if he is not an idiot , so why does he use an F-18 model in an outer space game?
well, why do you play a game in front of a PC? why not buy a real F-18 and fly like real? if you are soooooo into realism.

F-16 can't do VTOL! F-16 can't do carrier Op! yeah blah blah blah, a real F-16 should have an MS keyboard and Logitech joystick in the cockpit , or your "sim" can't be realistic.

Sorry Fenix, this is not aim at you. i am just talking about the common tendencies of people's thinking.

some people think they are experts and the most common reason is that: they haven't seen the real experts, or, they can not understand what the real experts do. just like a pilot who calls himself "ACE" would never expect being shot down by another pilot, until he was.
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#3582265 - 05/29/12 02:46 PM Re: Screenshots [Re: mlracing]
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Originally Posted By: mlracing

well, why do you play a game in front of a PC? why not buy a real F-18 and fly like real? if you are soooooo into realism.



Wow - yeah I will just pop down to Boeing and buy a few! clapping
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#3582299 - 05/29/12 03:26 PM Re: Screenshots [Re: Stormtrooper]
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currently what i enjoy flying, an unrealistic F-16
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#3582326 - 05/29/12 04:04 PM Re: Screenshots [Re: Stormtrooper]
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the entire engine your using looks like its 15 years old.
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#3582486 - 05/29/12 08:49 PM Re: Screenshots [Re: Stormtrooper]
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I still have a few of these laying around. hahaha













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#3582752 - 05/30/12 11:18 AM Re: Screenshots [Re: mlracing]
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Originally Posted By: mlracing
the word "simulation" can mean a lot of things. for some people it means simulation of technical data(F-18 can do mach 1.8 and no more! ), historical data ( there is no F-16 in the year 1965! )...
for some people it means simulation of technical theories ( acceleration = force / mass )... and a 3D model of aircraft is just a shell that looks nicer than the "X-Y-Z" symbols.
i don't mind an F22 doing VTOL like F35 or an F18 flying in the outer space, as long as the shell looks pretty.
i prefer a single 90%-correct-looking 3D model with 1000 historically-wrong functions than 1000 pieces of 60%-correct-looking 3D models with historically-correct functions in the package, which can easily be found on the internet.
so if you see a guy made an outer space flight game with an F-18 model, don't think he is an idiot who believes there is plenty of oxygen in the outer space. he may be smarter and more knowledgable than any "expert" whom you believe in.

some "expert" would say: if he is not an idiot , so why does he use an F-18 model in an outer space game?
well, why do you play a game in front of a PC? why not buy a real F-18 and fly like real? if you are soooooo into realism.

F-16 can't do VTOL! F-16 can't do carrier Op! yeah blah blah blah, a real F-16 should have an MS keyboard and Logitech joystick in the cockpit , or your "sim" can't be realistic.

Sorry Fenix, this is not aim at you. i am just talking about the common tendencies of people's thinking.

some people think they are experts and the most common reason is that: they haven't seen the real experts, or, they can not understand what the real experts do. just like a pilot who calls himself "ACE" would never expect being shot down by another pilot, until he was.


Seems like my comment didn't sound as good in text as when I said it. It was not an attack on you thats why I added the smiley after the comment so it wouldn't be taken wrong but it seems it was taken that way anyway. I'm sorry if I upset you with my comment it was not meant to do that. Once again I'm sorry.
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#3583162 - 05/31/12 02:46 AM Re: Screenshots [Re: Stormtrooper]
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it was not your problem Fenix. just that your comment reminded me of some others' behavior and i know what they *serve* .
i always like Sweden. at first it was for the rallying, but car racing is old story for me.
1 year ago i got to know the lastest jet fighter of Sweden - JAS39. i love the design, looks more even than EF2000 and Rafale. but there is no high quality 3D model on the internet, so i added canards to my existing models of F-16 & Mirage-5 to simulate the functions of canards.

also i feel that Sweden generally has a more neutral culture than some other countries. also, Sweden has something of its own so it doesn't need to *serve* other countries, JAS-39 is an example.
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#3583272 - 05/31/12 09:16 AM Re: Screenshots [Re: Stormtrooper]
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@Boilerplate - nice pics man! When taking screenshots, you can hide the text by cycling thru alt+D

@m1racing - about the Swedish aerospace industry, I always thought it impressive that a country of that size could produce something like the JAS-39 (and the Viggen, etc).
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#3583379 - 05/31/12 12:19 PM Re: Screenshots [Re: mlracing]
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Originally Posted By: mlracing
it was not your problem Fenix. just that your comment reminded me of some others' behavior.



that would be me.
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#3583509 - 05/31/12 03:10 PM Re: Screenshots [Re: Stormtrooper]
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play nice guys
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