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#2678143 - 02/23/09 03:07 AM Re: WWIAW edges ever closer. ***** [Re: Flying Tiger]  
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Item noted regarding no more FLT files from you, could you
tell me what program/s you use to create the FLT files
and I'll have a go at them.


Your a brave man Ade!

I do not know what Jan has used, but Ralf has the utilities which are the only ones which will completely edit all values in "planes.dat" and "*.flt" files.

One of the biggest problems in EAW is the stupidity of having 30 individual "*.flt" files, but a single "planes.dat" file which covers all 30 slots in one file.
If there is a fixed set of 30 aircraft then this is no problem, but if different planes are in the same slots in different years of a campaign then it becomes a monster. We provided a neat solution to this in OAW, by having a "*.flt" file and a script which is read when the data is loaded, and replaces the data for that aircraft in the "planes.dat" file.
There are very few people who have the knowledge regarding the values displayed in these two editors to produce credible flight model files which give balanced performance tested online. Other modders seem to have borrowed flight files from other planes and substituted them for new ones. That's OK to get them working, but when the new scenario is used online the faults appear glaringly.

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#2678162 - 02/23/09 04:35 AM Re: WWIAW edges ever closer. [Re: MrJelly]  
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Yep Jel, noticed the FLT files/and single planes dat thing
whilst playing around with Aircraft Edit...what a bummer!

Will contact Ralf in due course for some advice..

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#2680522 - 02/26/09 12:08 PM Re: WWIAW edges ever closer. [Re: Col. Gibbon]  
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Hi Guys.

I'm getting closer to a release version of the SE5a.

These are the latest screens. I'm seeing a few RS glitches, and mapping, which needs fixing, but for the main, the model is looking good. You will notice the big change is the canted wings, which I had to rebuild from scratch. smile







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#2680633 - 02/26/09 03:12 PM Re: WWIAW edges ever closer. [Re: Col. Gibbon]  
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That is yet another sweet bird Col. Your work is well worth waiting for.

#2680786 - 02/26/09 06:45 PM Re: WWIAW edges ever closer. [Re: iron mike]  
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Hi Mike.

I do try my best to turn out good models. Sometimes, even knowing how to build an RS compliant model does not help. I've got a glitch which is only on one side of the model. Normally, these glitches are mirrored, but this one only shows part of the tail through the upper wing. I'll recheck the RS later tonight. As I want to get this bird out, ASAP. There will not be a dedicated cockpit, although I can supply a cockpit wing view, if someone wants to build one. wink

Next project to be finished off, will be Moggy's Airspeed Oxford, which will need a skin. frown


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#2680887 - 02/26/09 09:13 PM Re: WWIAW edges ever closer. [Re: Col. Gibbon]  
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The term "dihedral" for the canted wings popped into mind.
It's worth the time you took to do them, John.

#2680947 - 02/26/09 11:15 PM Re: WWIAW edges ever closer. [Re: Wudpecker]  
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Top wing looking great Gibbo, but the undercarriage could
be a tad bigger if possible.



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#2680972 - 02/26/09 11:56 PM Re: WWIAW edges ever closer. [Re: Flying Tiger]  
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Better?



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#2680991 - 02/27/09 12:25 AM Re: WWIAW edges ever closer. [Re: Col. Gibbon]  
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Spot on Gibbo, you're an absolute wizard m8...

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#2681040 - 02/27/09 02:21 AM Re: WWIAW edges ever closer. [Re: Flying Tiger]  
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excellent!!! was worth the wait Col. and i've made some headway with the Zep, which will also have damage modeling with two camo mockups and this base skin for somebody here to paint others...

...except the gondolas are going to be looking lame but i'll be posting action pics soon which will make ya forget about that.

also doing Zeppelin tmods incase Pops/Tiger want to tetter them as targets and maybe a destroyed version to litter about the countryside...and these things ingame are big!!! about 10xlarger than the blimps which this one is the approx size of the M-Class (650') it was the Super Zeppelin used in the closing year of the war...cheers

#2681137 - 02/27/09 06:32 AM Re: WWIAW edges ever closer. [Re: FlyRight]  
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jawdrop

It'll take 5 mins to pass across the screen!! fantastic Al
any chance of rounding off that nose m8?

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#2681151 - 02/27/09 07:19 AM Re: WWIAW edges ever closer. [Re: FlyRight]  
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Hi FlyRight.

Nice bomb! biggrin

You'll need one of those huge hangers to park it in?


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#2681309 - 02/27/09 02:19 PM Re: WWIAW edges ever closer. [Re: Col. Gibbon]  
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after i push in the front a bit, the best i can do! and if your thinking of a new tmod building??? its still looking at a hanger shed about 7500 points long... this Zeps size from nose to fin is 3700 to -3500!!!

#2681445 - 02/27/09 04:50 PM Re: WWIAW edges ever closer. [Re: FlyRight]  
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Hi FlyRight.

Building a big tin shed for your flying cigar should not be to taxing for me.

Got a drawing?


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#2681573 - 02/27/09 07:56 PM Re: WWIAW edges ever closer. [Re: Col. Gibbon]  
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not a clue...only other thing i was going to do was to creat a mooring, from a resized radar tower and lieve the rest to one of our target editors to stick them in place. itm heres how it looks on the ground...

...its sitting right behind default hanger which btw can just get resized/shape also! but it total point lenght is now reduced to 3500, it began to not look proportionl to other objects as well as inflight.

what i can't find either is any drawings of the other zeppelins used in wwone.

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#2681609 - 02/27/09 08:52 PM Re: WWIAW edges ever closer. [Re: FlyRight]  
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FlyRight, I have some that I could email you. Email me at argonv at AOL dot com and I can scan them in for you. They are what Mossie and I used to create the Zeppelin L-11 for FS-WWI:



I also have some internal pics of the gondolas.

Here is some info and images:

http://www.pugetairship.org/zeppelins/list_2.html

P.S. Here is an actual photo of the L-11:


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#2681647 - 02/27/09 09:58 PM Re: WWIAW edges ever closer. [Re: ArgonV]  
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#2681668 - 02/27/09 10:31 PM Re: WWIAW edges ever closer. [Re: Ecv56SERA]  
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Argon that URL link helped, seems they all looked the same after 1914 just different lengths by class and seems i questimated 60mph when testing was close enough for speed too...rather see anything with camo schemes and typical military colors?

#2682204 - 02/28/09 08:53 PM Re: WWIAW edges ever closer. [Re: FlyRight]  
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Gibbs---Seems to me the scale of the SE-5 is way off-- or at least the pilots are.
That's a shockingly small airplane!
Compare the pilots. I think you need a guy twice the size.
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BTW, that Zeppelin is a monster! The damage model is beyond belief if lots of flame can be added, as said in the other WWI thread.




#2682263 - 02/28/09 10:42 PM Re: WWIAW edges ever closer. [Re: Wudpecker]  
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Always moaning! biggrin

Bigger pilot and what else?







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