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#3651555 - 09/27/12 01:31 AM Re: EAW 'The Western Front' ***** [Re: Flying Tiger]  
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#3651600 - 09/27/12 03:22 AM Re: EAW 'The Western Front' [Re: Flying Tiger]  
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about the W.4, that only worked because the floats didn't require the transparency which Jan Tumas rounded wheels rely on being part of the F.3dz having the only tra linkage...instead those floats were rebuilt under their respective wing 3dzs where the offending elements could be directly addressed and mostly bodged at that...turned out to be too much work for one plane but it was only experimental anyway!

#3651623 - 09/27/12 06:54 AM Re: EAW 'The Western Front' [Re: FlyRight]  
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Arghhhh....
there goes the best idea i had all week!


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#3652160 - 09/28/12 01:46 AM Re: EAW 'The Western Front' [Re: Flying Tiger]  
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except for this...a rare one.

EIII 422/15 german third army 1916






subject to F3dz modifying..


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#3652264 - 09/28/12 06:34 AM Re: EAW 'The Western Front' [Re: Flying Tiger]  
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Ade.
Which eaw.exe will the final product run on?
If it will use additional tiles then it needs to be 1.28F, and it would make sense for all people producing material for this scenario to be using it.
ColG is mentioning things like "trench railways", and these can be handled by the latest release of 1.28F.
There is no problem in upgrading from 1.28E to 1.28F. The same EAW folder should be used for both. The only difference that installing 1.28F makes is to replace a few CDF files with ones containing extra files that 1.28F uses, and adding the EAWTM2 folder that 1.28F uses.

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#3652273 - 09/28/12 08:04 AM Re: EAW 'The Western Front' [Re: Flying Tiger]  
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#3652276 - 09/28/12 08:16 AM Re: EAW 'The Western Front' [Re: Flying Tiger]  
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Trench railway code- the beginnings are working smile
If the railway section flag is divisible by 5 the railway is rendered.
As an experiment I have hacked this code so that if the railway flag is zero a different graphic is loaded.
In the four lane section the two outer lines are flagged as zero so the different graphic is loaded. The inner lines are flagged as 5 and 10 so the normal graphic is loaded.
The "different graphic" used was a renamed water tile with a very deep blue colour.



So the tracks are rendering correctly and that was the trickiest part.

I can now associate a specific graphic to the flag and display narrow gauge lines alongside the normal ones.
Different gauge tracks can meet at the terminus, as they did in the case of trench railways in WW1.

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#3652314 - 09/28/12 11:18 AM Re: EAW 'The Western Front' [Re: Flying Tiger]  
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It is done smile

I now have files "RTrack00.ter", "RTrack05.ter" and "RTrack10.ter" with the possibility of "RTrack15.ter" ..... "RTrack95.ter" for the section flags which are divisible by 5 and rendered.

The appropriate graphic is loaded based on the section flag.
I used a winter rail graphic for "RTrack00.ter" and two different water graphics for "RTrack05.ter" and "RTrack10.ter".





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#3652356 - 09/28/12 01:19 PM Re: EAW 'The Western Front' [Re: Flying Tiger]  
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Hi Guys.

Very few NG railways were double track, in fact nearly all were single track, with passing places at stations. The whole Idea of the war time trench was to easily move troops and ammunition to the front, as many roads were nearly in-passable close to the front. A lot were built using steal track sections with pressed steel sleepers. These track sections were easily picked up by four soldiers, and could be laid on almost any ground, with little or no ballast, so building a new railway could be done in a matter of hours.

I've found some interesting info on these links:

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/6458717/Trench_railways

http://www.mrt.org.uk/simplex/

http://www.livingwarbirds.com/trench-railways.php

http://ypres1917.3.forumer.com/index.php?showtopic=1015

http://library.mcmaster.ca/maps/ww1/WW1_Maps.htm

Fun reading. smile


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#3652468 - 09/28/12 04:03 PM Re: EAW 'The Western Front' [Re: Flying Tiger]  
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John can you please do me a couple of narrow gauge graphics versions of train32.ter with appropriate transparent areas so that I can try them instead of using re-named water tiles.

Thanks

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#3652579 - 09/28/12 07:22 PM Re: EAW 'The Western Front' [Re: Flying Tiger]  
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Hi Tony,

I thought the transparency effect worked on all the BMP files, but not on the TER files, so this is the best I can do. The fix, would I guess to drop the TER name and give the file name a TPC end, and then it would work. wink

http://www.mediafire.com/?5af23nvx8nz2zdc


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#3652699 - 09/28/12 10:58 PM Re: EAW 'The Western Front' [Re: Flying Tiger]  
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heres a research pic i had, probably the type of railway transport the Col's refering to which i didn't realize what it was until now since it looked like it was created by leprechauns...


you had me at dual tracks but never heard or seen trench rail lines, besides shouldn't multiple tracks only be available in marshalling yards, near industrial complexs, etc...

#3652712 - 09/28/12 11:19 PM Re: EAW 'The Western Front' [Re: Flying Tiger]  
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Nice find FlyRight. cool

I've not seen that pic before. The train is a British army one [note WD on the wagons], and you just have to love the train full of shells. I've read today, 1.500 tons of shells was a normal train load for this type of train. wink


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#3653433 - 09/30/12 11:53 AM Re: EAW 'The Western Front' [Re: Col. Gibbon]  
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Whoa.. for a few secs there i thought this thread
had gone off the rails...lost my train of thought!!


Have 1.28EtoF upgraded version done, however
still testing skins and mods in E. Does the F
version now require it's own WF folder as with
the others? jel...

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#3653460 - 09/30/12 02:09 PM Re: EAW 'The Western Front' [Re: Flying Tiger]  
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Yo Ade,
I am upgraded to F, and still testing new stuff.....
My original WF Beta folder is still working fine.
But I would like to see how we end up switching out
skins since you are making so many new multiskins.
Right now, all the WF skins are in a '3dz' folder,
but we will probably end up needing a WF 'planes'
folder, or maybe 'planeset' folders? (OAW can still
also do the job.)

AO

#3653473 - 09/30/12 03:08 PM Re: EAW 'The Western Front' [Re: Flying Tiger]  
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If you use OAW E and F can still be in the same folder- mine are.
Additional things get added to it for F, including extended CDFs, but E works fine.
It makes sense to use F for the is scenario because of the possibility of an increased tileset.

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#3653479 - 09/30/12 03:36 PM Re: EAW 'The Western Front' [Re: Flying Tiger]  
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Hi Tony.

Can you please re program the texture link for the track textures from train32.ter to train32.tpc?

The .ter textures have no working transparency effect, so the zero colour on .ter/.bmp does not work. By changing the texture links to .tpc/.bmp the zero colour should work again and the narrow gauge track will should show up correctly.

I've got a simple diesel model, but it's not WWI era, but rolling stock should be easy to do. I hope to have some sample models done in the next few days. smile


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#3653616 - 09/30/12 09:43 PM Re: EAW 'The Western Front' [Re: Flying Tiger]  
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Well, here is a similar 1950's narrow gauge loco, to the one in the picture.



I've got a few details to finish off tomorrow, and then it will be ready to run tests with Tony's narrow gauge railways. wink


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#3653665 - 10/01/12 12:13 AM Re: EAW 'The Western Front' [Re: Col. Gibbon]  
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here's inside the upgraded E to F version....



does this mean the exe is now 1.28F?

what folders to delete, what to keep?

does WF need a planes folder?

EAWV1.28FV17 - what is this version exe?


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#3653821 - 10/01/12 08:13 AM Re: EAW 'The Western Front' [Re: Flying Tiger]  
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Ade:
The exe is in an "E" folder in the OAW128 folder.

This is my EAW folder:

Note that I have a "Western Front 1.28E Basic Beta" folder
The exes and other stuff are in the OAW128 folder:


When I run OAW I can see which exe I have loaded and switch to another if needed:

Note that there are my two latest 1.28F exes and the last 1.28E exe in it, so this single EAW folder is used for both 1.28E and 1.28F

I do not have a heap of files in my root folder because I use the DirSet Picker in OAW to select the folder I want to use:

In this case it is the WW1 beta. I had already used the utility in the middle of the page to create the "Dir.set" file for loading.


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