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#2673967 - 02/16/09 12:09 PM ...and to buy this?
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What do you get for $24.95? I have WOV already.

Do I get 100 missions? 10 and some new aircraft? Do I have to get physical cds or can I order to download?

Let's discuss buying options...


Edited by exhausted (02/16/09 12:17 PM)
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#2674010 - 02/16/09 12:51 PM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: exhausted]
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For $29.95, you get WOV and YAPv2 on CD. If you do not need WOV, it is $24.95. For that you get 2 gigs of modifications to WOV, the practice missions, the first 10 missions and the usual compliment of Bonus missions.

Each additional mission set will contain >10 missions and the necessary objects to play them. Each set will contain a different aircraft carrier also.

All mission briefings, target files and maps are located online in the Member's Section.

We will offer or send out a coupon to relatively current YAP1 customers which will allow them to buy the above options for ~$10 off. I say "~" because I need to figure out how much Paypal is taking in this transaction.

The product has ambitions of being a product for people interest in the period that do not yet have WOV or recently acquired it as a download while seeking something like YAP.
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#2674012 - 02/16/09 12:53 PM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: zerocinco]
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Are the YAP1 missions lost or are they some of the "bonus" missions? Also, is there a download option? If I buy today, I want to have this downloaded today.
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#2674030 - 02/16/09 01:16 PM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: exhausted]
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Originally Posted By: exhausted
Are the YAP1 missions lost or are they some of the "bonus" missions? Also, is there a download option? If I buy today, I want to have this downloaded today.


Exhausted,

There are no more YAP1 missions. Gone, poof. (of course I have them, "tease") but they are useless in YAP2. Bonus missions are those that have never been released true stories until now, mostly because we did not have the toys necessary to tell the story.

So if you buy today, you get for real CD's in your mailbox.
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#2674033 - 02/16/09 01:19 PM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: 8 L.E.I.N.]
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well Sheesh! I had better buy these since I don't want to hurt the motor city's economy!

EDIT!

I have an old address in Paypal so I need to change that. Who should I send the correct address before the shipping?


Edited by exhausted (02/16/09 01:23 PM)
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#2674042 - 02/16/09 01:30 PM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: exhausted]
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Originally Posted By: exhausted
well Sheesh! I had better buy these since I don't want to hurt the motor city's economy!

EDIT!

I have an old address in Paypal so I need to change that. Who should I send the correct address before the shipping?


To: zerocinco@yankeeairpirate.net
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#2674045 - 02/16/09 01:35 PM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: 8 L.E.I.N.]
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all yankeeairpirate.net addresses get rejected by domain. I'm using Gmail. I sent to zerocinco@earthlink.net


Edited by exhausted (02/16/09 01:44 PM)
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#2674056 - 02/16/09 01:52 PM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: exhausted]
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Originally Posted By: exhausted
all yankeeairpirate.net addresses get rejected by domain. I'm using Gmail. I sent to zerocinco@earthlink.net


damn, sappers. thanks.
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#2674059 - 02/16/09 01:53 PM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: 8 L.E.I.N.]
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now what about member information?
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#2674065 - 02/16/09 02:01 PM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: exhausted]
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Originally Posted By: exhausted
now what about member information?


Once purchase is validated you'll get a Member ID and password via email so make sure its a current email address.
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#2674070 - 02/16/09 02:13 PM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: 8 L.E.I.N.]
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A "bonus mission" is just like a "counter". The truth is, we like the 100-mission idea but we have a lot more stories than that. So we either throw away very good stories to keep the count correct or we just call them bonus missions. When we put a carrier into a set, we like to concentrate stories from it into the set. Some of those end up being bonus missions so the set isn't overwhelmingly Navy. We try to adhere to a pattern. We always include an A2A, a helicopter, a USMC, a refueler, a USAF, a night mission and a USN.
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#2674101 - 02/16/09 02:48 PM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: zerocinco]
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#2674131 - 02/16/09 03:31 PM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: Deuces80th]
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So, to understand you correctly, that the initial purchase for $24.95 only gets 10 missions, mods and a few bonus missions, correct? If so, what do each 10 additional missions cost, $24.95? Thanks

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#2674157 - 02/16/09 04:01 PM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: strykerpsg]
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all I want to know is when is CV(A)-43 coming to play?!! I just bought the CD - WOV and now i have to agonize until it shows up at the door!!!!!!!!

so we are going to get phazed release again like YAP1?


Thanks 0/5

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#2674221 - 02/16/09 05:58 PM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: colmack]
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We have to put them out in sequence. At the end of YAP1, we were shipping 300 megabyte downloads because we kept providing the Huey and the Spad and the Midway. And, really, few people bought one set at the end. They usually bought them all. It's the only way we can have all the props in place.

People will ask about the coupon for old customers. Here it is:



Arrangements will be made very shortly.
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#2674229 - 02/16/09 06:06 PM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: zerocinco]
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First off guys, Congrats!
Hey 8 - why don't I just print out John's discount coupon above and meet you somewhere tomorrow to pick up my copy of YAP2...I can pay you in cash so John won't find out...D'OH! Stupid public forums.
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#2674256 - 02/16/09 07:05 PM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: swambast]
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So, anything with regards to cost per module or am I misreading the concept. I have scoured the home page and nothing solid on there, other then WoV and YAP2 available as a set or just YAP2 seperately for $4.00 less. There is mention of completing 100 missions, but I am still unclear as to what I get for $24.95? Zero, anyone.......?

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#2674284 - 02/16/09 08:12 PM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: strykerpsg]
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From what's been said, it's not clear what the new packs will cost, and if they'll revisit any of the original missions, but it sounds like they'll be all new and different.

It looks like the original had ten add-on packs for over 100 missions, but those are no longer available. Perhaps they should get bundled up with Yap1, and sold as a discount bundle?
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#2674293 - 02/16/09 08:35 PM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: MajorMagee]
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There are 100 missions (plus bonus missions). They are divided into 10 sets. The first set comes with the initial purchase. Many of the original stories are redone. There are many new ones. YAP1 is gone.
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#2674308 - 02/16/09 09:16 PM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: zerocinco]
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but no one is actually answering the question of the additional mission sets (9 more of 10 each, right?). are they each going to cost something or is the price of those included in the original purchase and just downloaded later when ready? thx!
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#2674318 - 02/16/09 09:59 PM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: TheHammer]
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Maybe it was not asked clearly enough.

$14.95.

They include:

01-10 = Ticonderoga
11-20 = Constellation
21-30 = Hancock
31-40 = Independence
41-50 = Ranger
51-60 = Enterprise
61-70 = Oriskany
71-80 = Intrepid and Coral Sea
81-90 = Bon Homme Richard and Kitty Hawk
91-00 = Midway

About thirty-five aircraft. We will have another at the end of this week and another by Monday.
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#2674331 - 02/16/09 10:54 PM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: zerocinco]
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Thanks Nuff said 4 me LOL push 71-80 LOL I know,, I know :-) having all the carriers will be a blast! one question Midway is she going to have a larger amount of deck candy?


Edited by colmack (02/16/09 10:58 PM)

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#2674337 - 02/16/09 11:07 PM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: colmack]
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Yes.
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#2674469 - 02/17/09 06:40 AM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: zerocinco]
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Zerocinco,

So, you'r saying the missions 01-100 are all included for the $14.95 price? If so, even more confusing about what the 24.95 price is then. So, if possible, a bit more clarification would be greatly appreciated by myself and I am sure others.

Originally Posted By: zerocinco
Maybe it was not asked clearly enough.

$14.95.

They include:

01-10 = Ticonderoga
11-20 = Constellation
21-30 = Hancock
31-40 = Independence
41-50 = Ranger
51-60 = Enterprise
61-70 = Oriskany
71-80 = Intrepid and Coral Sea
81-90 = Bon Homme Richard and Kitty Hawk
91-00 = Midway

About thirty-five aircraft. We will have another at the end of this week and another by Monday.
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#2674491 - 02/17/09 07:19 AM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: strykerpsg]
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Just for frame of reference, Third Wire is selling WOV as a download for $19.99. Amazon has the disc version for $17.99. I couldn't get a hit on GoGamer's website. That's just for Wings Over Vietman.

If you already have it, great. If you don't, this is a good opportunity to get it. I think we've all seen comments that this game is becoming scarce in the world.

Just a comment on the Members Area. I really enjoy it. It's got all the Set's missions listed, a detailed briefing for each, a really nice map of the target area which should help you set up your IP and target path, and a link to Google Earth so you can see what the real target area looks like. Plus some other goodies.

A very nice touch.
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#2674515 - 02/17/09 07:50 AM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: 20mm]
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I am also confused about this (doesn't take much though)

I have just ordered the whole package (WOV+YAP2) for 36 dollars so what will I get?
I assume a WOV disc and a YAP2 disc.But how many missions? 10 or 100? Where does the $14.95 come from?

Regards,Chucky.

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#2674542 - 02/17/09 08:19 AM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: Chucky]
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I am truly suprised at the amount of confusion in just stating what the price is for this. Ultimately, I do not mind buying modules, however not too excited about spending $14.95 per 10 mission module, if the case. However, $14.95 or even $24.95 for the entire 100 missions and add ons is great! So, am on the fence purchasing this and it sounds as though many others are just seeking clarity on the price as well. I have read nothing but great things about YAP1 and 2, but please just clarify what the final price is. Thanks

Matt

PS, I have bought every TK series product, so have always thoroughly enjoyed the series. Just don't want to get pulled into a series where I must buy multiple modules when I am assuming I am buying them all for one price is all.
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#2674559 - 02/17/09 08:48 AM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: strykerpsg]
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#2674617 - 02/17/09 10:26 AM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: strykerpsg]
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Originally Posted By: strykerpsg
I am truly suprised at the amount of confusion in just stating what the price is for this. Ultimately, I do not mind buying modules, however not too excited about spending $14.95 per 10 mission module, if the case. However, $14.95 or even $24.95 for the entire 100 missions and add ons is great! So, am on the fence purchasing this and it sounds as though many others are just seeking clarity on the price as well. I have read nothing but great things about YAP1 and 2, but please just clarify what the final price is. Thanks

Matt

PS, I have bought every TK series product, so have always thoroughly enjoyed the series. Just don't want to get pulled into a series where I must buy multiple modules when I am assuming I am buying them all for one price is all.


Check out the Mission Sets on the Yankee Air Pirate website. Each Mission Set contains 15 to 20 individual missions. I think that you can assume that each individual Mission Set is what you get for each of your individual $14.95 purchases. If I understand correctly, the first mission set comes with your original basic YAP2 purchase of $24.95 or $29.95. So, after the original purchase (of $25.95 or $29.95) you spend $14.95 EACH for EACH individual Mission set (9 x $14.95 = $134.55). It seems logical to me. That's my "take" on the whole situation -- but I'm probably wrong. Exactly what do we get for our $14.95?

CB


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#2674639 - 02/17/09 11:10 AM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: Curious142]
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Hi All,

I believe Curious142 is correct. Because that is how I purchased YAP1. There was an initial cost for the first mission set, followed by an additional $10.00 dollar cost for each of the other nine mission sets.

Out of here,

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#2674644 - 02/17/09 11:26 AM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: strykerpsg]
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Originally Posted By: strykerpsg
Zerocinco,

So, you'r saying the missions 01-100 are all included for the $14.95 price? If so, even more confusing about what the 24.95 price is then. So, if possible, a bit more clarification would be greatly appreciated by myself and I am sure others.

Originally Posted By: zerocinco
Maybe it was not asked clearly enough.

$14.95.

They include:

01-10 = Ticonderoga
11-20 = Constellation
21-30 = Hancock
31-40 = Independence
41-50 = Ranger
51-60 = Enterprise
61-70 = Oriskany
71-80 = Intrepid and Coral Sea
81-90 = Bon Homme Richard and Kitty Hawk
91-00 = Midway

About thirty-five aircraft. We will have another at the end of this week and another by Monday.




Set 1-10 is included with the intial purchase. You then get your Member ID and password. Each additional set of missions is $14.95 is you so desire to purchase any.
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#2674670 - 02/17/09 12:16 PM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: 8 L.E.I.N.]
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Thanks for clearing that up.

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#2674750 - 02/17/09 01:59 PM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: Chucky]
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Ok, thanks 8Lein, was about to start throwing my keyboard across the room in frustration. Perhaps it was me all alon that just couldn't understand either the website or zeocinco's reply. BTW, can these missions be played in multiplayer format? Thanks

Matt
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#2674755 - 02/17/09 02:06 PM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: strykerpsg]
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Originally Posted By: strykerpsg
Ok, thanks 8Lein, was about to start throwing my keyboard across the room in frustration. Perhaps it was me all alon that just couldn't understand either the website or zeocinco's reply. BTW, can these missions be played in multiplayer format? Thanks

Matt


Unknown about the Multi player, never tried it, but I doubt it. Let us know if it works out.
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#2676259 - 02/19/09 04:11 PM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: 8 L.E.I.N.]
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Okay, so $36 + $135 = $170 to get the whole thing.
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#2677044 - 02/20/09 04:55 PM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: MajorMagee]
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Something like that. I never added it up.
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#2686151 - 03/06/09 06:39 AM Re: ...and to buy this? [Re: zerocinco]
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That's fine with me. Seems reasonable. I just want to get the thing working on my rig. I have no problem with paying for the work that has been done.

I also did not receive the e-mail with my YAP2 member account. Can someone send that info out to me?

Are all the mission sets available right now? Can we login and buy them all now? Is there a discount for buying all the mission sets at once?

-Skater
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