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#2652064 - 01/13/09 05:53 PM Did these guys just give up?
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It seems that the best days of this sim are in the past. Somebody pleeeease (pooor favoooor) prove me wrong. smile
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#2652220 - 01/14/09 01:28 AM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: Jake Strafer]
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Not smile Sorry for the lack of news, we're just quiet lately but had many internal developments in our proprietary sim engine, like:
- wingmen AI doing bombing runs on enemy warships
- new camera views (switching to view other units in the battlefield, etc)
- improved ground physics
- wingmen AI capable of doing carrier traps
- the art department revamped the Mirage/Dagger and MB339 to a very hires version (pics comming soon)
- Sea Harrier being updated to a very hires version as we speak

...and more stuff. Stay tuned! wink
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#2652668 - 01/14/09 04:11 PM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: Dante-JT]
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That's great to hear Dante!

We're pulling for your team!

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#2652848 - 01/15/09 01:44 AM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: Dante-JT]
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Originally Posted By: Dante-JT
[...]- the art department revamped the Mirage/Dagger and MB339 to a very hires version (pics comming soon)


Hello all, Olá Dante,

first post from a old Jaguar mechanic of french air force and first interrogations ... Sorry ... sicko

Dante, you talk about a Aermacchi MB-339 but, in the official site FEATURES,
it's only for "a later expansion pack".
That means this plane will be directly implemented in "Jet Thunder: Falkands/Malvinas" like a flyable aircraft ?

Could we expect a Vulcan (or helicopters) ? santa

I beg your pardon my poor english and i wish you the best continuation as possible.

Have a nice day.

PS : like you see in my signature, the french simers are waiting for your title impatiently. pilot

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#2652982 - 01/15/09 08:46 AM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: gO_oSe]
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how close till we see a beta... if you are looking for external betas that is...

keep up the good work all.
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#2655060 - 01/18/09 02:59 PM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: joey45]
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the widescreen video demo is very impressive... it gives a great sense of speed and "being there" in the cockpit, especially the G-effects and cockpit reflections. can't wait to get a hold of this sim!
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#2655741 - 01/19/09 02:57 PM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: Clydewinder]
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Now that's a relief to be hearing from the JT team again smile

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#2659650 - 01/25/09 02:27 AM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: Trident]
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Good to hear you are still active.

Looking forward to this very much
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#2659652 - 01/25/09 02:44 AM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: Trident]
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It is good to hear something... I was starting to think vapourware.

Any projected quarter/year?

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#2660580 - 01/26/09 01:59 PM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: tagTaken2]
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Originally Posted By: tagTaken2
It is good to hear something... I was starting to think vapourware.

Any projected quarter/year?



It is vaporware. look at the screenshots, low budget basement project, will be lucky to find a publisher and will never see mass distribution even if it ever releases.

Combat simulations are NOT moneymakers anymore, especially if they aren't done to professional standards. Not to be insulting but this game looks like a mod project using a cheap game engine at best.

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#2660586 - 01/26/09 02:11 PM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: swampthng]
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Dante, please check your PMs regarding SimHQ interview questions.

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#2660720 - 01/26/09 06:34 PM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: Joe]
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i am also happy to answer for the project too.
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#2660722 - 01/26/09 06:38 PM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: Jake Strafer]
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Originally Posted By: Jake Strafer
It seems that the best days of this sim are in the past. Somebody pleeeease (pooor favoooor) prove me wrong. smile


we're still working on it. fairly intensively as far as our jobs allow. The project recently received a boost when due to economic climate, i lost my job and got to work on jet thunder full time for some time.

we're now in a sort of alpha stage which shows most of the features in the game, but that they are unbalanced and unpolished. Its took 5-6 years so far since we started. And I really want to finish it this year.


Edited by scary_pigeon (01/26/09 06:39 PM)
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#2660731 - 01/26/09 07:02 PM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: scary_pigeon]
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i can understand the sentiment though - 5 years to make a game. bleh! for the last 3 year i was working at juice games making a game with about 30 other people, that got canned - its all over the public domain now, Stormbirds - these projects take some time - perhaps our mistake was to announce our intent to make jet thunder so early?

It ought to have been secret perhaps. ironically its my fault the world knows about it since I used to be a loudmouth on the forums smile

Its certain is not vapourware though it may seem that way when things take so long - its basically ruled our life for the past half decade. every waking moment is concerned with it. All spare time taken up by it - or if we get distracted by PS3 or something, there is that guilt to the project we owe it smile

I wouldn't worry too much about the graphical look of our project - it generally matches what is out there, performs extremely well on mid range systems including average laptops, and now that we begin to expand the programming team, the more superficial but finishing touches will be applied.



Edited by scary_pigeon (01/26/09 07:04 PM)
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#2660781 - 01/26/09 08:59 PM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: swampthng]
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Originally Posted By: swampthng


It is vaporware. look at the screenshots, low budget basement project, will be lucky to find a publisher and will never see mass distribution even if it ever releases.

Combat simulations are NOT moneymakers anymore, especially if they aren't done to professional standards. Not to be insulting but this game looks like a mod project using a cheap game engine at best.


What a pleasant, upbeat little post. Thanks for that. skyisfalling

Moving on, I'm looking really forward to this mostly because no-one else has touched it, it has carriers (yay), and the avionics should be a little more fun and lowtech than most other modern jet sims.
Please keep us posted- and throw away the PS3, you know you'll go blind if you keep doing that.

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#2661313 - 01/27/09 02:33 PM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: tagTaken2]
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Hey JT guys,

good to hear that JT is alive and dragging on.. somwhow biggrin

Now where are those pic sof hi-res Daggers and SHARs ...

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#2662283 - 01/28/09 07:11 PM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: scary_pigeon]
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Originally Posted By: scary_pigeon
i can understand the sentiment though - 5 years to make a game. bleh! for the last 3 year i was working at juice games making a game with about 30 other people, that got canned - its all over the public domain now, Stormbirds - these projects take some time - perhaps our mistake was to announce our intent to make jet thunder so early?

It ought to have been secret perhaps. ironically its my fault the world knows about it since I used to be a loudmouth on the forums smile

Its certain is not vapourware though it may seem that way when things take so long - its basically ruled our life for the past half decade. every waking moment is concerned with it. All spare time taken up by it - or if we get distracted by PS3 or something, there is that guilt to the project we owe it smile



Great post! Ladies and gentlemen, the life of a software developer. Even if the project is what you love, it's still work, and takes alot of time (your FREE time)..

Best wishes to you, scary_pigeon in finding a "paying" job. And when you folks feel your "second" jib us finished, we'll be around to support you all.

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#2662713 - 01/29/09 02:06 PM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: ChrisKasie]
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Dante, Scary_Pigeon, J T'ers, thanks for the update it's good to know you are still around and that J T is moving along. I will miss this banter when the sim comes out, it seems I have followed it's progrees from PCs around the globe! From the Iraq to France, Afghanistan to Aberdeen I have tuned in to see what you've been upto in the updates you post. I am visiting the setting for J T this year, and will finaly get to see the areas depicted as well as some of the crash sites of those who took part in this desperate battle. If I can help you with any GR.3 close up shots, let me know. Good luck.

S_P, Stormbirds looked good, a new twist to flight games.


Edited by HarryR (01/29/09 02:07 PM)

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#2670977 - 02/11/09 12:13 PM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: scary_pigeon]
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Originally Posted By: scary_pigeon
i am also happy to answer for the project too.
I will send along the list of questions to you, then.

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#2670987 - 02/11/09 12:39 PM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: scary_pigeon]
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Originally Posted By: scary_pigeon
for the last 3 year i was working at juice games making a game with about 30 other people


This means you know Steve Hunt and other ex-DID, right? Are you still in contact? If so, could you get a message to him? Tell him that we'd love to talk with him or any ex-DID on the SimHQ F-22 Total Air War board. I'm guessing he already knows this but just in case he doesn't.
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#2671728 - 02/12/09 02:03 PM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: HarryR]
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Originally Posted By: HarryR

S_P, Stormbirds looked good, a new twist to flight games.



You all can 'thank' Stormbirds for all the delays that Jet Thunder suffered. :P hehehe. Sad but true..
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#2672691 - 02/14/09 04:05 AM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: Dante-JT]
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Dante, eu mandei um PM para voce. smile
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#2676303 - 02/19/09 05:00 PM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: Tom_Weiss]
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Crack on Dante! and lets have it. I for one can't wait! Is there any chance we can have the full V bomber force provided? Just a couple more of 57 squadron's victors and a blue steel equiped vulcan would be enough to give the ability to press on and drop "the big one" on Beunos aires .
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#2676651 - 02/20/09 08:06 AM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: Dante-JT]
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Originally Posted By: Dante-JT
Originally Posted By: HarryR

S_P, Stormbirds looked good, a new twist to flight games.



You all can 'thank' Stormbirds for all the delays that Jet Thunder suffered. :P hehehe. Sad but true..


Patiently waiting.... pitchafit
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#2693764 - 03/18/09 04:16 PM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: Uther]
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Just "bumping" because I'm still interested. smile

Would definitely be nice to see some of the screenshots that were teased at the start of this thread...
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#2717391 - 05/03/09 12:10 AM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: Pizzicato]
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i second that. the youtube vids of this sim look spectacular.

any news? pics?

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#2717765 - 05/03/09 07:34 PM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: Bumfluff]
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SimHQ interview is in the works...

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#2717837 - 05/04/09 12:46 AM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: Joe]
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#2717855 - 05/04/09 02:50 AM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: Bumfluff]
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Great.

Even I'm starting to worry about this.

And SoW.

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#2718329 - 05/04/09 06:15 PM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: tagTaken2]
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Great news Joe! ,,and JT!

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#2735789 - 06/02/09 05:42 AM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: piper]
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Be great to see a interview and some further news. I have been watching the development of this sim for a few years now.
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#2738124 - 06/05/09 09:26 PM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: SC/JG_Oesau]
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SimHQ has tried to contact scary_pigeon a few times for final interview approval. No response. We are waiting...

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#2738197 - 06/06/09 05:07 AM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: Joe]
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There's an update dated 2nd June on the official site: http://www.thunder-works.com/news.htm
Apparently they used the game engine for a History Channel documentary on the Falklands War. I'm trying right now to find out if and when it will be showed in Europe wink.

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#2738374 - 06/06/09 12:32 PM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: D13-th_Korn]
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Come on...Update us! Nice to see the engine getting used in a show.

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#2739094 - 06/07/09 05:43 PM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: HarryR]
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Joe get in contact with Dante it would be easier smile

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#2739183 - 06/07/09 11:29 PM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: IvanK]
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IvanK is right smile Joe, please mail me at:

dante at thunder-works dot com

And indeed, History Channel's documentary is nearly all JT models, and all cockpit scenes are actual gameplay - I've been asked to follow a Skyhawk, do a AIM-9L lock, and a gunkill - lets see how much of this went to the actual tv show! smile

Two nice teasers below:
http://www.4shared.com/file/109863788/e4ed3d1c/1982malvinas_HD720_60seg.html

http://www.4shared.com/file/109864726/646dc028/1982Malvinas_HD720_50seg.html?err=no-sess

That point-blank gunkill of Skyhawk by a Sea Harrier, shown in the second video above, actually happened - it was John Leeming in the Sea Harrier and the Skyhawk pilot was Marquez (KIA), just after the fatal blow did to the HMS Ardent.
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#2739316 - 06/08/09 05:25 AM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: Dante-JT]
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Great tease Dante smile

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#2739366 - 06/08/09 07:28 AM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: IvanK]
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Stop posting and get back to work dammit!!!

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#2739441 - 06/08/09 09:43 AM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: Dante-JT]
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IvanK is right smile Joe, please mail me at:

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#2739758 - 06/08/09 06:29 PM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: Joe]
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Ok Joe, email received, tomorrow morning I'll be emailing the final interview text + a couple of exclusive screenshots wink

good night!
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#2739787 - 06/08/09 07:29 PM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: Dante-JT]
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Oh boy, are we looking forward to that smile

Thanks Dante!
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#2740533 - 06/09/09 11:11 PM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: AWL_Spinner]
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#3022512 - 05/31/10 04:34 PM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: scary_pigeon]
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Originally Posted By: scary_pigeon
Originally Posted By: Jake Strafer
It seems that the best days of this sim are in the past. Somebody pleeeease (pooor favoooor) prove me wrong. smile


we're still working on it. fairly intensively as far as our jobs allow. The project recently received a boost when due to economic climate, i lost my job and got to work on jet thunder full time for some time.

we're now in a sort of alpha stage which shows most of the features in the game, but that they are unbalanced and unpolished. Its took 5-6 years so far since we started. And I really want to finish it this year.


The only time I have heard some one sound positive about loosing there job!

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#3030637 - 06/13/10 01:23 PM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: swampthng]
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Originally Posted By: tagTaken2
It is good to hear something... I was starting to think vapourware.

Any projected quarter/year?



It is vaporware. look at the screenshots, low budget basement project, will be lucky to find a publisher and will never see mass distribution even if it ever releases.

Combat simulations are NOT moneymakers anymore, especially if they aren't done to professional standards. Not to be insulting but this game looks like a mod project using a cheap game engine at best.


You have no idea of what you are talking about. However, you ARE entitled to your opinion.

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#3094937 - 09/16/10 08:36 AM Re: Did these guys just give up? [Re: Jake Strafer]
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I'm looking forward to this sim.
Keep up with the great work!

It would be great if its going to be moddable, to use those aircrafts in other theaters, skinning, and to add some.
I hope developers will provide much better support then DCS crew. I'm really tired of their buggy single-plane max-4-players-MP byproducts of some other sim frown

Any chance to give us an estimate on the date?

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