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#2646234 - 01/04/09 04:41 PM Re: STICKY: Tutorial: How to take off and blow up stuff ***** [Re: Sunjah]  
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Originally Posted By: Sunjah
EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT Tutorial! I just flew it for the first time (is 4 hours a record?), and died for the first time.


Hehe... thanks.

Originally Posted By: Sunjah
I did have a question, though I think I know the answer. The guide says "As we approach waypoint 2, we should..." It is really waypoint 3, right? I never got the message, but as I approached waypoint 3 I did get the weapons message, and there was a ridge there, too. I went crazy looking for that ridge at waypoint 2. So I think I understand now.

Yes, my mistake. WP1 is the take-off waypoint, I just fixed the WP numbers, thanks for pointing that out.


Originally Posted By: Sunjah
Also, as tremndous as this is, it would probably help people to also put the link to the Adobe *.pdf file in the opening post.


I agree, just did that. smile

Originally Posted By: Sunjah
The last thing, and don't get me wrong, I appreciate the mission, but WHAT IS UP WITH THE 3/4 TANK OF GAS? I am sitting, hovering just behind the ridge blocking out waypoint #3, my targeting and weapon systems are all-a-go, and I get a beeping...sure enough before I rolled her on the ground, side over side, I was able to look at the fuel guage and see I HAD RUN OUT OF GAS!!!

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!


Lol! hahaha

Honestly, I've never run out of gas in that mission, and I've played it quite a few times. You're sure that your crew chief hasn't bartered off some fuel for vodka? wink


"...late afternoon the Air Tasking Order came in [and] we found the A-10 part and we said, "We are going where!? We are doing what!?"

Capt. Todd Sheehy, Hog pilot, on receiving orders during Operation Desert Storm

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#2646642 - 01/05/09 05:48 AM Re: STICKY: Tutorial: How to take off and blow up stuff [Re: Para_Bellum]  
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Originally Posted By: Para_Bellum
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Lol! hahaha

Honestly, I've never run out of gas in that mission, and I've played it quite a few times. You're sure that your crew chief hasn't bartered off some fuel for vodka? wink


THAT'S IT! That would be the only thing that would make sense!!! Wait until the next time that boy dares to sleep!

--I'm going "in" for another try!

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#2647092 - 01/05/09 08:35 PM Re: STICKY: Tutorial: How to take off and blow up stuff [Re: Sunjah]  
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'Dem tanks bleweded up REAL GOOD last night. ar15 tanksalot

When I went in to check out the damage, I got the "nose-up, wild, uncontrollable pitching" until I crashed.

--Going back in for the tent dudes crew

{Wonder if they'll blewed up as good as 'dem tanks?!?)


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#2650146 - 01/10/09 05:35 PM Re: STICKY: Tutorial: How to take off and blow up stuff [Re: Sunjah]  
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I tried this but I couldn't get the mission to run. Just a black screen.


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#2650195 - 01/10/09 07:16 PM Re: STICKY: Tutorial: How to take off and blow up stuff [Re: Plainsman]  
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Hmm... that's the 1st time I hear of technical problems with that mission, Plainsman. Maybe you had a corrupt download? Might be a good idea to re-download the mission. Otherwise I have no idea what could cause a crash. The mission is small and simple and runs on both russian and english versions. I didn't include fancy voiceovers or other stuff, it's just a couple of units, waypoints and a few triggers. Nothing that should cause a problem.

Did you get black screens in other missions, too?


"...late afternoon the Air Tasking Order came in [and] we found the A-10 part and we said, "We are going where!? We are doing what!?"

Capt. Todd Sheehy, Hog pilot, on receiving orders during Operation Desert Storm

#2665646 - 02/03/09 05:26 PM Re: STICKY: Tutorial: How to take off and blow up stuff [Re: Para_Bellum]  
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Thanks Para_Bellum for the best beginner source I ve seen so far.
Messed with manual and stuff a lot but I almost instantley forgot everything ^^

Now that it looks like I got how weapons work and trimming seems starting to work after disabling all return to center forces in my sidewinder software Id like to mess around in your tutorial missions together with my buddies who are also heli-sim noobs.

I tried to modify your mission. Seemed to be easy. Just placed Ka50 icons on the airport and selected client. However, starting it as a server I only found one free Ka50 slot.
Didn't get why the first heli is only marked as an "X"

Can anybody tell me how I can place a 4-Heli-Group controlled by players for COOP beginner training?

#2666195 - 02/04/09 02:16 PM Re: STICKY: Tutorial: How to take off and blow up stuff [Re: Atelophobia]  
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Para_Bellum you have done a great service for all the users of BS. I found the manual good but hard to implement without a proper training function. I didn't know where to begin but now i have your wonderfull "how to take off and blow stuff up" I can now focus and begin learing how to work the Aircraft.
The manual and training vids now make sense this is all due to the effort that you put into making this training masterpiece well done and good work.

Look forward to more stuff from you.

#2671814 - 02/12/09 11:20 PM Re: STICKY: Tutorial: How to take off and blow up stuff [Re: rapid]  
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I think the Black Shark boxed version should somehow incorporate this one... - But how should it be done? Just the pdf as a "quick start guide" or something more involved? - Ideas?


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#2673690 - 02/16/09 12:32 PM Re: STICKY: Tutorial: How to take off and blow up stuff [Re: Freycinet]  
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Thanks Para_Bellum!

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#2674029 - 02/16/09 09:12 PM Re: STICKY: Tutorial: How to take off and blow up stuff [Re: Freycinet]  
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hey bro come dwn to fla.USA and i'll buy ya a steak and a beer ..big help...many thxs

#2678254 - 02/23/09 11:39 AM Re: Tutorial: How to take off and blow up stuff [Re: Dart]  
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LOL friends

in basic its all not so complicated.

the engine part is like every other flying vehicle....you have APU (even in boieng, airbus....)
which has to be started first, then hydraulics (even in trucks) which has to pressure up, fuel cut-offs, electrical cut-offs, and starter....with only this systems you can primary start turbines...

of course, dont forget to start up all the other systems for navigatin, targeting, communication...and so on....but this is also not an oscar-award bringing issue .-)

regards to all
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#2682791 - 03/01/09 08:33 PM Re: Tutorial: How to take off and blow up stuff [Re: vienna1210]  
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Just been thinking.

As a follow on to this basic training mission, a mission and pdf outlining the squad commands and data link would round off peoples training and then they'd be ready for the campaigns.

The you'd hardly need to read the manual smile


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#2688302 - 03/10/09 04:10 PM Re: STICKY: Tutorial: How to take off and blow up stuff [Re: Para_Bellum]  
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"Map the trim function to a Joystick button and get used to press it whenever you move the stick, then release it again."

Does that include take off and hover?


thanks in advance


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#2693970 - 03/19/09 08:27 AM Re: STICKY: Tutorial: How to take off and blow up stuff [Re: Tabula_Rasa]  
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Originally Posted By: Tabula_Rasa
"Map the trim function to a Joystick button and get used to press it whenever you move the stick, then release it again."
Does that include take off and hover?

Take off, yes. In fact, you may want to trim even before you take off as default position of the flightstick is a bit tilted backwards.
Hover, yes. Even when stabilized by autopilot, you will experience effects of wind, turbulence, AP inprecision etc, which you'll need to correct manually, using trimmer.


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#2693979 - 03/19/09 09:20 AM Re: Tutorial: How to take off and blow up stuff [Re: Para_Bellum]  
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Very cool guide!
I found an error though: "You can switch off the autopilot/stabilization via the flight director mode, but I prefer leaving them all on and using the trim to change the flight profile"

F.Director mode does not switch AP on. Instead, it changes AP control span from 20% to 5% iirc, making the chopper more sensitive to fligth control inputs.


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#2707219 - 04/12/09 05:38 PM Re: Tutorial: How to take off and blow up stuff [Re: SSneg]  
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Thanks Para_Bellum,

took me several tries, re-reading and lot of cursing till I realized you didn't mention the Weapon Selection (Vikhr) prior to launch, somewhere along pages 10-13 (between target designation and launch) in the .pdf. There wasn't of course any launch circle, without Vikhr being selected... Would be also better to mention cannon selection.

Please insert in the online as well as in the pdf to save others from the same mental torture... :-)

Thanks: Razor18

#2709187 - 04/16/09 10:56 AM Re: Tutorial: How to take off and blow up stuff [Re: Razor18]  
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Great tutorial buy i have little problem.
In ABRIS i pres the NAV button then MAP. In PVI-800 i click the upper left corner button then a click 1 to set 1 waypoint but in the HUD i have no STEERPOINT CABAT. what is the problem?

thank You!

#2709755 - 04/17/09 05:48 AM Re: Tutorial: How to take off and blow up stuff [Re: Dart]  
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Just awesome , i Got this sim just yesterday.
It's really mind boggling ,so much info , your pdf will really come in handy ( for the initial moment).

Thanks

#2712460 - 04/23/09 05:03 AM Re: Tutorial: How to take off and blow up stuff [Re: Dart]  
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Good stuff, I might just get up the guts to try this thing soon! LOL
If that Apache and A-10 come out soon the decision will be made. As much as I want to have to time to learn a game like this and get the most out of it, I just don't ever have the time to stick with them long enough to get to the point of doing what I want. Sounds like this could be a really good game for me, especially with 2 of my most favorite aircraft coming up.


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#2715155 - 04/28/09 10:50 PM Re: Tutorial: How to take off and blow up stuff [Re: Raw Kryptonite]  
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Can someone email me the mission file. I have tried changing the file by naming the file Tourial01.miz before downloading but still get a rar file everytime.

Thanks in advance

Rocky49

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