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#2639149 - 12/22/08 10:05 PM DCS Making Big Marketing Mistake?  
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Why the A10 for the next module? What's the rush? We already have the A10 in LOMAC. There is a feeling of redundancy in that decision. I can't see myself spending the money on the A10. If a lot of people feel as I do, that would jeopardize ED's financials and it's ability to produce their third planned module, which is the one the community wants more than an A10: An Apache helo.

Someone needs to advise ED. An Apache helo module, followed by an F18 module with carrier ops would sell out. Then do a (yawn) A10 module, if you must.

All of those LB2 devotees would come scrambling to the DCS series if the Apache was next. ED already did the A10.


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#2639153 - 12/22/08 10:11 PM Re: DCS Making Big Marketing Mistake? [Re: Plainsman]  
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After seeing how well they've modeled the Ka-50, I for one am thrilled that an A-10 study sim is in development. The one in LOMAC was fun but after flying the SU-25T with the AFM and more realistic avionics and now the Ka-50 the LOMAC A-10 feels like playing Strike Fighters.

Judging by outcry that happened when Jane's A-10 was canceled and the subsequent talking about it when LOMAC was in development, I think you'll see a lot of folks happy that an A-10 study sim is on the way.

Not to mention they are building an A-10 sim for the ANG so I'd assume they've got a lot of work already done.

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#2639155 - 12/22/08 10:19 PM Re: DCS Making Big Marketing Mistake? [Re: Jeevz]  
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I'd say bring on the A-10! :-)

#2639161 - 12/22/08 10:28 PM Re: DCS Making Big Marketing Mistake? [Re: SirViper]  
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I personally can't wait to fly the Hog with the same hi-fidelity modelling as the Su-25T and the Ka-50. And after the Black Shark a jet will be a nice change in pace, too. I'm quite happy with ED's decision in that regard.


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#2639163 - 12/22/08 10:31 PM Re: DCS Making Big Marketing Mistake? [Re: Plainsman]  
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Originally Posted By: Plainsman
Why the A10 for the next module? What's the rush? We already have the A10 in LOMAC. There is a feeling of redundancy in that decision. I can't see myself spending the money on the A10. If a lot of people feel as I do, that would jeopardize ED's financials and it's ability to produce their third planned module, which is the one the community wants more than an A10: An Apache helo.


The community wants an awesome A-10C simulator. Just like they wanted an awesome Ka-50 simulator. The A-10A and A-10C are first and foremost different beasts. Furthermore, the LOMAC A-10A and a DCS A-10A will also be completely different beasts as well.


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Someone needs to advise ED. An Apache helo module, followed by an F18 module with carrier ops would sell out. Then do a (yawn) A10 module, if you must.


The release of ED's modules is based upon work already completely to some degree or another - for example, the A-10C was already done to a great extent for the USANG. For this reason, the A-10C will be next in line, since it is the most complete module to date.

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All of those LB2 devotees would come scrambling to the DCS series if the Apache was next. ED already did the A10.


DCS has no A-10, and LO's A-10 will never ... ever compare to the one in DCS. Period. About the only excuse you can use to say 'it was done by ED' is that they kinda look alike wink
The LB2 crowd's time will come, too - but it'll be an AH-64A model.


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#2639186 - 12/22/08 11:00 PM Re: DCS Making Big Marketing Mistake? [Re: Plainsman]  
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If they decide not to do the A-10 first, I will personally hunt you down and skin you alive...

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#2639193 - 12/22/08 11:13 PM Re: DCS Making Big Marketing Mistake? [Re: Brennus]  
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The A-10 is what I am most interested in of the series.

BTW... any word on how the new aircraft will be added? Will I have to buy every prior aircraft product released if I want one later in the series? Or will all prior be included in the latest aircraft release? Or just a simple stand alone product for each aircraft?

If there was a link on this I missed it, sorry.

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#2639196 - 12/22/08 11:16 PM Re: DCS Making Big Marketing Mistake? [Re: Brennus]  
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If they do the A-10 the way they did the KA-50, I'll gladly and happily paid to have the A-10. I think that doing a plane after the KA50 will draw more people into the game.. Some don't like Helicopters so having a plane to fly will enable ED to please both crowd.


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#2639198 - 12/22/08 11:18 PM Re: DCS Making Big Marketing Mistake? [Re: adlabs6]  
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Same here. I came late to the Hog in LOMAC. But now I'm an addict. There's just nothing like tagging a tank with an AGM.

#2639201 - 12/22/08 11:33 PM Re: DCS Making Big Marketing Mistake? [Re: franx]  
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You will not need to buy previous aircraft to play the A-10. Yes, you will be able to join MP sessions where you fly the A-10 and other fly say, the Ka-50.

The A-10 will be simulated to the same or better degree of fidelity than the Ka-50. That is all I can reveal at this time.

As you probably know, the Nevada terrain is being created for this module as well.

And yes, the A-10C IS next.


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#2639202 - 12/22/08 11:37 PM Re: DCS Making Big Marketing Mistake? [Re: GrayGhost]  
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#2639231 - 12/23/08 12:08 AM Re: DCS Making Big Marketing Mistake? [Re: Brennus]  
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Bring on the A10!

#2639237 - 12/23/08 12:17 AM Re: DCS Making Big Marketing Mistake? [Re: StylezXP]  
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The Warthog wil be a money hog, as in earning a lot of money for DCS, mark my words...


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#2639245 - 12/23/08 12:33 AM Re: DCS Making Big Marketing Mistake? [Re: Plainsman]  
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Originally Posted By: Plainsman
...If a lot of people feel as I do, that would jeopardize ED's financials ...


I think you're one of the few here. I'm looking forward towards study A-10 sim.

#2639283 - 12/23/08 01:21 AM Re: DCS Making Big Marketing Mistake? [Re: GrayGhost]  
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I would like to also chime in. I really really want a 64 but yea know I am willing to see the a10 and pass judgment when it is out. If they do what they did with Black Shark I may, and again I am only doing it because of the Flight model, I will pick it up and I may even enjoy myself smile.
However I would like to see the AH-64 first but, I will try it none the less. My 2 cents worth.
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#2639297 - 12/23/08 01:39 AM Re: DCS Making Big Marketing Mistake? [Re: Plainsman]  
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Originally Posted By: Plainsman
All those LB2 devotees would come scrambling to the DCS series if the Apache was next.


I think I can speak for quite a few of us... the helo crowd is just happy to see a new, quality helo sim. Great work ED!

Originally Posted By: Plainsman
Someone needs to advise ED. An Apache helo module, followed by an F18 module with carrier ops would sell out.


Apache, Asmache... If you're going to suggest 'feet wet', go Cobra and Hornet. I just took a survey... 10 out of 10 Marines suggested Cobra over Apache. wink


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I believe that the A-10C is next because they have the most data on it from their other job of providing training aids to the National Guard. They have been working on simulating the A-10 for some time and getting paid for it, so it would be the most cost effective to release it next.


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#2639313 - 12/23/08 02:13 AM Re: DCS Making Big Marketing Mistake? [Re: GrayGhost]  
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Plainsman does have a point IMO. But I was wondering, wouldn't it be the easiest for ED to add the SU25T since most of the high fidelity modeling has already been done in FC? It would be nice to have an Apache though....

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What's the big deal about the A10-C? What's the difference between an A10-C and an A10-A? Isn't a Warthog a Warthog?


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