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#2620267 - 11/20/08 04:53 PM Max Res for Janes sims?  
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Guys,

I am building a PC specifically for F-15, F/A-18 and Longbow 2. It has:

Win98SE
DirectX 7
P3 1Gig (10 x 100 FSB)
192 Megs RAM (I can put in anything from 64 to 768 Megs)
Voodoo 5 5500
SB Live
Cougar + CH Pedals
TIR 4 (can I even use that in these sims?)

20' Monitor


Now my question is, how can I play these games on higher resolutions appropriate for a 20" monitor?

Appreciate the help, thanks!


I have gaming PCs that run everything from MS-DOS 6.22 to Windows 7 64-bit

Win7 Home Prem 64
i5-3570
ASRock HM77
XFX Radeon HD 6950 2 Gig
8 Gigs GSkill DDR3 1600
500 Gig Samsung 840 SSD
1 TB WD Black SATA II HD
Plextor 24x DVD-RW
ViewSonic VA2702w 1920x1080
HP L2206tm 1920x1080 Multi-Touch Screen
Antec Neo 550w PS
Antec Full Tower Case
Warthog 1663 w/ CH Pro Pedals
TIR4 w/ Clip
Logitech G110 KB
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#2620276 - 11/20/08 05:06 PM Re: Max Res for Janes sims? [Re: UnderTheRadar]  
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With TSHv3 you can use any of the following resolutions in JF-18:
640x480
800x600
1024x768
1152x864
1280x768
1280x720
1280x960
1280x1024
1360x768
1400x1050
1600x900
1600x1024
1600x1200
1920x480
1920x1200
2048x1536

These are all supported under DX7. Typically a 20" 5:4 monitor would run at 1280x1024. A 20" widescreen monitor would run at 1680x1050.

I don't know how this would work for LB2 or JF-15.

#2620313 - 11/20/08 05:49 PM Re: Max Res for Janes sims? [Re: Joe]  
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Thanks Joe! wink


I have gaming PCs that run everything from MS-DOS 6.22 to Windows 7 64-bit

Win7 Home Prem 64
i5-3570
ASRock HM77
XFX Radeon HD 6950 2 Gig
8 Gigs GSkill DDR3 1600
500 Gig Samsung 840 SSD
1 TB WD Black SATA II HD
Plextor 24x DVD-RW
ViewSonic VA2702w 1920x1080
HP L2206tm 1920x1080 Multi-Touch Screen
Antec Neo 550w PS
Antec Full Tower Case
Warthog 1663 w/ CH Pro Pedals
TIR4 w/ Clip
Logitech G110 KB
Razer Naga
#2620337 - 11/20/08 06:32 PM Re: Max Res for Janes sims? [Re: UnderTheRadar]  
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I run F/A-18 on my 22" WS monitor at 1280x1024 with the option not to scale, so I have some black bars but things are more in proportion than allowing them to stretch.

I run Longbow2 at the full 1680x1050 res using the option in the DGVoodoo Glide Wrapper. It is a little stretched out of proportion but still works fine. Not sure you can get there without a GLIDE Wrapper as LB2 doesn't really allow resolution changes. I used to run both sims on a similar system with V5 5500 and they worked well. Only had a 17" CRT, though.

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#2620351 - 11/20/08 06:56 PM Re: Max Res for Janes sims? [Re: Recluse]  
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Originally Posted By: Recluse


I run Longbow2 at the full 1680x1050 res using the option in the DGVoodoo Glide Wrapper. It is a little stretched out of proportion but still works fine. Not sure you can get there without a GLIDE Wrapper as LB2 doesn't really allow resolution changes. I used to run both sims on a similar system with V5 5500 and they worked well. Only had a 17" CRT, though.

Recluse


You can use a glide wrapper with a voodoo card? I thought the glide wrapper was for if you did not have a voodoo card?

Thank you!


I have gaming PCs that run everything from MS-DOS 6.22 to Windows 7 64-bit

Win7 Home Prem 64
i5-3570
ASRock HM77
XFX Radeon HD 6950 2 Gig
8 Gigs GSkill DDR3 1600
500 Gig Samsung 840 SSD
1 TB WD Black SATA II HD
Plextor 24x DVD-RW
ViewSonic VA2702w 1920x1080
HP L2206tm 1920x1080 Multi-Touch Screen
Antec Neo 550w PS
Antec Full Tower Case
Warthog 1663 w/ CH Pro Pedals
TIR4 w/ Clip
Logitech G110 KB
Razer Naga
#2620417 - 11/20/08 09:24 PM Re: Max Res for Janes sims? [Re: UnderTheRadar]  
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No, I meant that on my CURRENT system, I use the GLIDE WRAPPER to get the 3dFX and it allows resolution increase.

I believe I DID try using the GLIDE WRAPPER with the V5 5500 to get the resolution increase but I honestly don't recall what happened when I did!

Recluse


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Flight Gear:

Cougar Hotas S/N 26453
Thrustmaster RCS Rudder Pedals

#2620448 - 11/20/08 10:16 PM Re: Max Res for Janes sims? [Re: Recluse]  
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you mean for JF15 and Longbow2.

JF18 is gonna run horribly on that system with the Voodoo card


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#2620469 - 11/20/08 10:36 PM Re: Max Res for Janes sims? [Re: Spidey]  
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Originally Posted By: Spidey
you mean for JF15 and Longbow2.

JF18 is gonna run horribly on that system with the Voodoo card


Bummer...

Ok, if you were gonna build a system specifically for these games... I want maximum compatibility, minimum headaches... what would you build?

Thanks!


I have gaming PCs that run everything from MS-DOS 6.22 to Windows 7 64-bit

Win7 Home Prem 64
i5-3570
ASRock HM77
XFX Radeon HD 6950 2 Gig
8 Gigs GSkill DDR3 1600
500 Gig Samsung 840 SSD
1 TB WD Black SATA II HD
Plextor 24x DVD-RW
ViewSonic VA2702w 1920x1080
HP L2206tm 1920x1080 Multi-Touch Screen
Antec Neo 550w PS
Antec Full Tower Case
Warthog 1663 w/ CH Pro Pedals
TIR4 w/ Clip
Logitech G110 KB
Razer Naga
#2620574 - 11/21/08 02:24 AM Re: Max Res for Janes sims? [Re: UnderTheRadar]  
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Not true!! F/A-18 ran fine on my old P3-550 with the V5 5500. The Voodoo 5 was a pretty decent DX7 card as well as a 3dFX accelerator. With the faster CPU it should do even better.

Recluse


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PowerSpec G436
Lian Li ATX 205
MSI Z490 Plus Motherboard
Intel Core i7 10700K 3.8 GHz
32 GB RAM DDR4 1600
Nvidia RTX3070

Windows 10 Professional 64 Bit

Flight Gear:

Cougar Hotas S/N 26453
Thrustmaster RCS Rudder Pedals

#2620752 - 11/21/08 01:29 PM Re: Max Res for Janes sims? [Re: Recluse]  
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Wow, that's dedication... making an entire new system JUST for those Jane's sims.

Reminds me of when I went all out to find a Voodoo card a few years back on my old PC so I could play LB2 as it was meant to be... in 3DFX!

That was BEFORE I'd ever found a successfull glide wrapper though! smile

#2620825 - 11/21/08 03:36 PM Re: Max Res for Janes sims? [Re: Flyboy]  
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I just lost my weekly Falcon 4 group. frown

I have never loved a helo sim as much as Longbow 2.

... and I miss carrier ops smile


I have gaming PCs that run everything from MS-DOS 6.22 to Windows 7 64-bit

Win7 Home Prem 64
i5-3570
ASRock HM77
XFX Radeon HD 6950 2 Gig
8 Gigs GSkill DDR3 1600
500 Gig Samsung 840 SSD
1 TB WD Black SATA II HD
Plextor 24x DVD-RW
ViewSonic VA2702w 1920x1080
HP L2206tm 1920x1080 Multi-Touch Screen
Antec Neo 550w PS
Antec Full Tower Case
Warthog 1663 w/ CH Pro Pedals
TIR4 w/ Clip
Logitech G110 KB
Razer Naga
#2620861 - 11/21/08 04:50 PM Re: Max Res for Janes sims? [Re: UnderTheRadar]  
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You know that anyone could have saved the campaign and taken over hosting from Striker and continue the F4 group? Striker said he was going to save the campaign files and email them out sometime as well. I generally couldn't make the Saturday F4 campaigns anyway frown

You can't go wrong with LB2 and F/A-18 carrier ops anyway. Someday we'll have to find a time for LB2 Multiplay...single mission or campaign style.

Recluse


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PowerSpec G436
Lian Li ATX 205
MSI Z490 Plus Motherboard
Intel Core i7 10700K 3.8 GHz
32 GB RAM DDR4 1600
Nvidia RTX3070

Windows 10 Professional 64 Bit

Flight Gear:

Cougar Hotas S/N 26453
Thrustmaster RCS Rudder Pedals

#2620884 - 11/21/08 05:32 PM Re: Max Res for Janes sims? [Re: Recluse]  
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UTR, Recluse - I'm up for LB2 online most any time.


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#2620972 - 11/21/08 08:47 PM Re: Max Res for Janes sims? [Re: Recluse]  
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Originally Posted By: Recluse
You know that anyone could have saved the campaign and taken over hosting from Striker and continue the F4 group? Striker said he was going to save the campaign files and email them out sometime as well. I generally couldn't make the Saturday F4 campaigns anyway frown

You can't go wrong with LB2 and F/A-18 carrier ops anyway. Someday we'll have to find a time for LB2 Multiplay...single mission or campaign style.

Recluse


Striker obviously put a little bit of his heart and soul into that campaign and I simply do not have the knowledge to manage it as well as he did. Maybe I am being over-dramatic but, I would feel weird playing with his baby like that.

Besides, what I learned from this experience is that there is a WHOLE LOT MORE FUN to be had with these games when played with you guys online so, I will walk away from F4 and try to enjoy these Jane's titles as much as I enjoyed Falcon.

Hopefully one day we play on another Striker server... with Falcon 5 or a LP F-18 title... smile


I have gaming PCs that run everything from MS-DOS 6.22 to Windows 7 64-bit

Win7 Home Prem 64
i5-3570
ASRock HM77
XFX Radeon HD 6950 2 Gig
8 Gigs GSkill DDR3 1600
500 Gig Samsung 840 SSD
1 TB WD Black SATA II HD
Plextor 24x DVD-RW
ViewSonic VA2702w 1920x1080
HP L2206tm 1920x1080 Multi-Touch Screen
Antec Neo 550w PS
Antec Full Tower Case
Warthog 1663 w/ CH Pro Pedals
TIR4 w/ Clip
Logitech G110 KB
Razer Naga
#2620973 - 11/21/08 08:49 PM Re: Max Res for Janes sims? [Re: Eugene]  
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Originally Posted By: Eugene
UTR, Recluse - I'm up for LB2 online most any time.


As soon as I feel proficient enough that I am not wasting anyone's time, I will certainly be looking to do exactly that.


I have gaming PCs that run everything from MS-DOS 6.22 to Windows 7 64-bit

Win7 Home Prem 64
i5-3570
ASRock HM77
XFX Radeon HD 6950 2 Gig
8 Gigs GSkill DDR3 1600
500 Gig Samsung 840 SSD
1 TB WD Black SATA II HD
Plextor 24x DVD-RW
ViewSonic VA2702w 1920x1080
HP L2206tm 1920x1080 Multi-Touch Screen
Antec Neo 550w PS
Antec Full Tower Case
Warthog 1663 w/ CH Pro Pedals
TIR4 w/ Clip
Logitech G110 KB
Razer Naga
#2621131 - 11/22/08 02:24 AM Re: Max Res for Janes sims? [Re: UnderTheRadar]  
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Originally Posted By: UnderTheRadar


As soon as I feel proficient enough that I am not wasting anyone's time, I will certainly be looking to do exactly that.



We're mostly in it for the fun and the more the merrier. As you no doubt learned from the F4 experience, online MP is not only fun but a great instructional tool as well.

Also, no need to wait for a LP F/A-18 experience. Janes F/A-18 is great in MP as well, absent the dynamic campaign.

Recluse


Long system spec sig follows:






PowerSpec G436
Lian Li ATX 205
MSI Z490 Plus Motherboard
Intel Core i7 10700K 3.8 GHz
32 GB RAM DDR4 1600
Nvidia RTX3070

Windows 10 Professional 64 Bit

Flight Gear:

Cougar Hotas S/N 26453
Thrustmaster RCS Rudder Pedals

#2621168 - 11/22/08 03:40 AM Re: Max Res for Janes sims? [Re: Recluse]  
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Hey, UTR -
And besides what Recluse said, why walk away from Falcon 4? Most of us still fly, and would enjoy seeing you again. I'm around several evenings a week, Recluse too sometimes. Send an ICQ, or just stop in on SimHQ TS and see if any one is home.


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#2638632 - 12/22/08 03:19 AM Re: Max Res for Janes sims? [Re: Spidey]  
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Originally Posted By: Spidey
you mean for JF15 and Longbow2.

JF18 is gonna run horribly on that system with the Voodoo card


Yeah, I just made the box today and F/A-18 is really choppy. Playable but, annoying compared to F4 on my current rig.

The REALLY crappy thing is I just gave a way a cherry P4P800 based system that would have been EXCELLENT for this frown

What happened to Karma? smile

F-15 just looks awful at 640x480 on a 20" monitor.

Longbow2 looks fine in external but the pit has some problems, weird lines and some gauges are stacked on top of each other.

I have not sat and tweaked out on PCs in a long time. It was a fun waste of a day smile

Last edited by UnderTheRadar; 12/22/08 03:24 AM.

I have gaming PCs that run everything from MS-DOS 6.22 to Windows 7 64-bit

Win7 Home Prem 64
i5-3570
ASRock HM77
XFX Radeon HD 6950 2 Gig
8 Gigs GSkill DDR3 1600
500 Gig Samsung 840 SSD
1 TB WD Black SATA II HD
Plextor 24x DVD-RW
ViewSonic VA2702w 1920x1080
HP L2206tm 1920x1080 Multi-Touch Screen
Antec Neo 550w PS
Antec Full Tower Case
Warthog 1663 w/ CH Pro Pedals
TIR4 w/ Clip
Logitech G110 KB
Razer Naga
#2638860 - 12/22/08 04:11 PM Re: Max Res for Janes sims? [Re: UnderTheRadar]  
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Ok, problem solved smile

Ladies and Gentlemen, my new F/A-18 Rig...

Win98 SE, DX7, Glide
P4 650 3.4 775 HT
MSI 865GM-V (AGP, 775, DDR 400, SATA)
Voodoo 5 5500 AGP
SBLive

I do not think I will have anymore framerate issues smile


I have gaming PCs that run everything from MS-DOS 6.22 to Windows 7 64-bit

Win7 Home Prem 64
i5-3570
ASRock HM77
XFX Radeon HD 6950 2 Gig
8 Gigs GSkill DDR3 1600
500 Gig Samsung 840 SSD
1 TB WD Black SATA II HD
Plextor 24x DVD-RW
ViewSonic VA2702w 1920x1080
HP L2206tm 1920x1080 Multi-Touch Screen
Antec Neo 550w PS
Antec Full Tower Case
Warthog 1663 w/ CH Pro Pedals
TIR4 w/ Clip
Logitech G110 KB
Razer Naga
#2639097 - 12/22/08 09:03 PM Re: Max Res for Janes sims? [Re: UnderTheRadar]  
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@ UnderThe Radar,

Nice work putting together a dedicated Jane's machine!

Check PMs, please.

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