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#2646018 - 01/03/09 11:33 PM Re: STICKY: Tutorial: How to take off and blow up stuff ***** [Re: LoyalNine]
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EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT Tutorial! I just flew it for the first time (is 4 hours a record?), and died for the first time.

Well, actually, I played about 7 or 8 and I could not hover. In "Shooting Range" mission, I have achieved pretty much 'mastery' of the initial hover after take-off (I love to just watch it from so many different angles). In this one, I kept losing it and going side to side and could not get a handle. Finally, I went to "Shift + F4" view, and I was able to bring it up, hover and then get down to 50 m. Weird!

I did have a question, though I think I know the answer. The guide says "As we approach waypoint 2, we should..." It is really waypoint 3, right? I never got the message, but as I approached waypoint 3 I did get the weapons message, and there was a ridge there, too. I went crazy looking for that ridge at waypoint 2. So I think I understand now.

Also, as tremndous as this is, it would probably help people to also put the link to the Adobe *.pdf file in the opening post.

*.pdf guide to Training Missions, pt. 1 & pt. 2

I copied it and pasted it to MS Word, and because of the pictures, I had to go in and manually edit all of them. Then today, I went to the second page here and almost died when I saw that *.pdf was available. Literally took about 2 hours to fit the thing within the margins...ugh!

The last thing, and don't get me wrong, I appreciate the mission, but WHAT IS UP WITH THE 3/4 TANK OF GAS? I am sitting, hovering just behind the ridge blocking out waypoint #3, my targeting and weapon systems are all-a-go, and I get a beeping...sure enough before I rolled her on the ground, side over side, I was able to look at the fuel guage and see I HAD RUN OUT OF GAS!!!

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

I just can't do it again right now, but tomorrow, THOSE TANKS ARE DUST-IN-THE-WIND!!!
By the way, keep the missions coming, whether training (very welcome) or regular (also welcome)!!!

Thanks!


Edited by Sunjah (01/03/09 11:41 PM)


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#2646234 - 01/04/09 11:41 AM Re: STICKY: Tutorial: How to take off and blow up stuff [Re: Sunjah]
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Originally Posted By: Sunjah
EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT Tutorial! I just flew it for the first time (is 4 hours a record?), and died for the first time.


Hehe... thanks.

Originally Posted By: Sunjah
I did have a question, though I think I know the answer. The guide says "As we approach waypoint 2, we should..." It is really waypoint 3, right? I never got the message, but as I approached waypoint 3 I did get the weapons message, and there was a ridge there, too. I went crazy looking for that ridge at waypoint 2. So I think I understand now.

Yes, my mistake. WP1 is the take-off waypoint, I just fixed the WP numbers, thanks for pointing that out.


Originally Posted By: Sunjah
Also, as tremndous as this is, it would probably help people to also put the link to the Adobe *.pdf file in the opening post.


I agree, just did that. smile

Originally Posted By: Sunjah
The last thing, and don't get me wrong, I appreciate the mission, but WHAT IS UP WITH THE 3/4 TANK OF GAS? I am sitting, hovering just behind the ridge blocking out waypoint #3, my targeting and weapon systems are all-a-go, and I get a beeping...sure enough before I rolled her on the ground, side over side, I was able to look at the fuel guage and see I HAD RUN OUT OF GAS!!!

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!


Lol! hahaha

Honestly, I've never run out of gas in that mission, and I've played it quite a few times. You're sure that your crew chief hasn't bartered off some fuel for vodka? wink
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#2646642 - 01/05/09 12:48 AM Re: STICKY: Tutorial: How to take off and blow up stuff [Re: Para_Bellum]
Sunjah Offline
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Registered: 01/03/09
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Originally Posted By: Para_Bellum
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Lol! hahaha

Honestly, I've never run out of gas in that mission, and I've played it quite a few times. You're sure that your crew chief hasn't bartered off some fuel for vodka? wink


THAT'S IT! That would be the only thing that would make sense!!! Wait until the next time that boy dares to sleep!

--I'm going "in" for another try!


Edited by Sunjah (01/05/09 12:55 AM)

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#2647092 - 01/05/09 03:35 PM Re: STICKY: Tutorial: How to take off and blow up stuff [Re: Sunjah]
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'Dem tanks bleweded up REAL GOOD last night. ar15 tanksalot

When I went in to check out the damage, I got the "nose-up, wild, uncontrollable pitching" until I crashed.

--Going back in for the tent dudes crew

{Wonder if they'll blewed up as good as 'dem tanks?!?)


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#2650146 - 01/10/09 12:35 PM Re: STICKY: Tutorial: How to take off and blow up stuff [Re: Sunjah]
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I tried this but I couldn't get the mission to run. Just a black screen.
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#2650195 - 01/10/09 02:16 PM Re: STICKY: Tutorial: How to take off and blow up stuff [Re: Plainsman]
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Hmm... that's the 1st time I hear of technical problems with that mission, Plainsman. Maybe you had a corrupt download? Might be a good idea to re-download the mission. Otherwise I have no idea what could cause a crash. The mission is small and simple and runs on both russian and english versions. I didn't include fancy voiceovers or other stuff, it's just a couple of units, waypoints and a few triggers. Nothing that should cause a problem.

Did you get black screens in other missions, too?
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#2665646 - 02/03/09 12:26 PM Re: STICKY: Tutorial: How to take off and blow up stuff [Re: Para_Bellum]
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Registered: 02/03/09
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Loc: Germany / Bavaria
Thanks Para_Bellum for the best beginner source I ve seen so far.
Messed with manual and stuff a lot but I almost instantley forgot everything ^^

Now that it looks like I got how weapons work and trimming seems starting to work after disabling all return to center forces in my sidewinder software Id like to mess around in your tutorial missions together with my buddies who are also heli-sim noobs.

I tried to modify your mission. Seemed to be easy. Just placed Ka50 icons on the airport and selected client. However, starting it as a server I only found one free Ka50 slot.
Didn't get why the first heli is only marked as an "X"

Can anybody tell me how I can place a 4-Heli-Group controlled by players for COOP beginner training?

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#2666195 - 02/04/09 09:16 AM Re: STICKY: Tutorial: How to take off and blow up stuff [Re: Atelophobia]
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Para_Bellum you have done a great service for all the users of BS. I found the manual good but hard to implement without a proper training function. I didn't know where to begin but now i have your wonderfull "how to take off and blow stuff up" I can now focus and begin learing how to work the Aircraft.
The manual and training vids now make sense this is all due to the effort that you put into making this training masterpiece well done and good work.

Look forward to more stuff from you.

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#2671814 - 02/12/09 06:20 PM Re: STICKY: Tutorial: How to take off and blow up stuff [Re: rapid]
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I think the Black Shark boxed version should somehow incorporate this one... - But how should it be done? Just the pdf as a "quick start guide" or something more involved? - Ideas?
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#2673690 - 02/16/09 07:32 AM Re: STICKY: Tutorial: How to take off and blow up stuff [Re: Freycinet]
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Thanks Para_Bellum!

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