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#2606814 - 10/28/08 02:05 PM What helicopter sim has the most accurate Flight Model?  
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I'm sure this has been asked b4 but what helicopter sim has the most accurate Flight Model?

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#2606828 - 10/28/08 02:17 PM Re: What helicopter sim has the most accurate Flight Model? [Re: Torpo]  
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Jane's Longbow 2

#2606915 - 10/28/08 03:55 PM Re: What helicopter sim has the most accurate Flight Model? [Re: Flyboy]  
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Originally Posted By: Flyboy
Jane's Longbow 2


wrong

the answer is DCS: Black Shark

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#2606948 - 10/28/08 04:45 PM Re: What helicopter sim has the most accurate Flight Model? [Re: El Hefe]  
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Originally Posted By: El Hefe
wrong

the answer is DCS: Black Shark

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We'll see

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#2607118 - 10/28/08 10:11 PM Re: What helicopter sim has the most accurate Flight Model? [Re: Flyboy]  
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#2608005 - 10/30/08 10:42 AM Re: What helicopter sim has the most accurate Flight Model? [Re: Evil Koala]  
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Ago few time, I believe than for me EECH 2...


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#2610396 - 11/03/08 10:59 PM Re: What helicopter sim has the most accurate Flight Model? [Re: Xanpitopato]  
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Play DCS Black Shark and then will see wink

#2611751 - 11/06/08 03:37 AM Re: What helicopter sim has the most accurate Flight Model? [Re: pilot111]  
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A Russian, military, heli pilot said the Ka-50 in BS was pretty real. Pretty much everyone who has it said it's the best, yet. In Jane's Longbow 2, I got in the copter and went fighting -- taking off and landing were never a problem. Not so in BS according to the people who have the game.

#2613549 - 11/09/08 12:04 AM Re: What helicopter sim has the most accurate Flight Model? [Re: similan]  
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I'm not a real pilot, so I couldn't say what's most realistic. There was an article done here at SimHQ, years back (2001 maybe), about the rotorcraft flight characteristics of X-Plane (7 I think was the current version then). The review was conducted by the helicopter forums mod (forgot his handle) and he was an actual pilot in Canada for a logging company I believe. As I recall, he was pretty impressed with X-plane back then. I have heard good things about BS though, really looking forward testing it out when it hits North America.


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#2613866 - 11/09/08 04:35 PM Re: What helicopter sim has the most accurate Flight Model? [Re: K6_Scorpion]  
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Originally Posted By: K6_Scorpion
The review was conducted by the helicopter forums mod (forgot his handle) and he was an actual pilot in Canada for a logging company I believe.


IIRC, that was ZeroG (or Zero G).

#2615753 - 11/12/08 07:35 PM Re: What helicopter sim has the most accurate Flight Model? [Re: mbeaver]  
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I like Activision Value's Apache Longbow Assault. I am always amazed that you don't hear more buzz about that one. The graphics and sound effects are second to none. The flight model feels right but I am not a real helo pilot so I don't know. It seems consistent with everything I've read about the Apache though. I believe it is still available from the Activision Value website if you're interested.

activisionvalue.com/titles/apache2/screenshots.html

There is also some in game footage at You Tube. Just look up "Apache Longbow Assault." The game got good reviews when it came out.


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#2616216 - 11/13/08 01:09 PM Re: What helicopter sim has the most accurate Flight Model? [Re: ic13]  
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Yeah, I've played Apache Air Assault and I like the flight model. It has a lot of realistic features but the torque feels a bit underpowered to me. Sometimes it seems impossible to climb off the deck. It looks good and I've seen shots of ALA and it looks great!

#2617011 - 11/14/08 03:23 PM Re: What helicopter sim has the most accurate Flight Model? [Re: Flyboy]  
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If DCS:BS has translational lift then it would be the best. So far NOOOO helicopter sim has that basic fundamental so they all are unrealistic.


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#2617424 - 11/15/08 02:49 AM Re: What helicopter sim has the most accurate Flight Model? [Re: Punisher5555]  
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Originally Posted By: Punisher5555
If DCS:BS has translational lift then it would be the best. So far NOOOO helicopter sim has that basic fundamental so they all are unrealistic.
I think X-Plane 9 and DCS have that, but I'm not 100% sure.

*edit: confirmed, X-Plane 9 has it...

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#2617941 - 11/16/08 04:57 AM Re: What helicopter sim has the most accurate Flight Model? [Re: theflyboy]  
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Hmm.. I have been using FSX. If X-plane has it then I will have to pick it up and try it.
Is there somewhere that lists the helicopter physics of X-plane 9?


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#2618447 - 11/17/08 03:18 AM Re: What helicopter sim has the most accurate Flight Model? [Re: Punisher5555]  
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Originally Posted By: Punisher5555
If DCS:BS has translational lift then it would be the best. So far NOOOO helicopter sim has that basic fundamental so they all are unrealistic.




EECH & EE2 Both have Transitional Lift. How well it is modeled that is a different story but they have the option you can turn Off or On in Both those Sims wink


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#2618566 - 11/17/08 12:04 PM Re: What helicopter sim has the most accurate Flight Model? [Re: The Nephilim]  
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I once read on a forum sonewhere that a helo pilot (in real life) said that the flightmodel of Battlefield 2 came nearest to flying a real helo. Don't know which games the pilot tried to conclude that.

#2618670 - 11/17/08 03:55 PM Re: What helicopter sim has the most accurate Flight Model? [Re: The Nephilim]  
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Originally Posted By: Punisher5555
If DCS:BS has translational lift then it would be the best. So far NOOOO helicopter sim has that basic fundamental so they all are unrealistic.



LB2 most definitely has translational lift!! Not only in normal flight regimes, but to the extent that if you are down with a single engine and cannot lift off, you can release the wheel brake and execute a rolling takeoff (esp. if you happen to be on an incline!).


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#2620168 - 11/20/08 02:02 PM Re: What helicopter sim has the most accurate Flight Model? [Re: mbeaver]  
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The flight model in Black Shark is really incredible!!!!! The sense of flight is very believable.You pay for your mistakes in the shark.........no plane on rails here.

#2692677 - 03/17/09 02:24 PM Re: What helicopter sim has the most accurate Flight Model? [Re: Phantom103]  
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Hmmm, hit me on the head, but I loved Vietnam Med+Evac.
It really was a challenge, and the flight model just felt real.
Well, apart from the graph.


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