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#2582650 - 09/07/08 12:23 PM
Re: Heffe, er Hewfe, er Hefe, er Wheat Beer rocks!!!!!
 
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Son of Hades
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"Those who call it Hefeweizen will go to hell! It's proper name is "Weißbier"!"
Weissbier isn't exactly the same animal. It is a wheat beer-yes-but it is NOT bottled with active yeast in it. Hefeweizen is,thus,the different nomenclature. Err..no. Weißbier is the older, Bavarian name for Hefeweizen. It's one and the same. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weissbierhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat_beerEtymologically, "weiss" does not mean "white", but refers to "wheat" (the modern German name for wheat is "Weizen", so "weiz" and "weiss" are phonetically related; the term "weizen" developed from "weiss", after the light color of the the grain as well as it's flour). Weißbier therefore means nothing else but wheatbeer. Another reasons it's called "Weißbier" is that mid-19th century, some brewers in Munich replaced the dark malted barley with lighter malted wheat - or, more correctly, mixed light and dark malt, so the term weiss became a play of words (the color of Weißbier depends on the measure between barley and wheat malt). But originally, "weiss" is old-Bavarian for "wheat". Whether or not the final fermentation process happens in the bottle or in a large tank depends solely on the brewery/ brand. Traditionally, the yeast ferments inside the bottle, which is called "Flaschengärung" in German. I should know, since I am currently drinking one of these: http://www.steerweisse.de/ (which ranks among the best Weissbiere I have ever had). Look at the label which says "Original Flaschengärung". Ok, now you in turn are free to lecture me on Southern gravy, and grits..... 
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#2582768 - 09/07/08 03:21 PM
Re: Heffe, er Hewfe, er Hefe, er Wheat Beer rocks!!!!!
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"Those who call it Hefeweizen will go to hell! It's proper name is "Weißbier"!"
Weissbier isn't exactly the same animal. It is a wheat beer-yes-but it is NOT bottled with active yeast in it. Hefeweizen is,thus,the different nomenclature. Err..no. Weißbier is the older, Bavarian name for Hefeweizen. It's one and the same. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weissbierhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat_beerEtymologically, "weiss" does not mean "white", but refers to "wheat" (the modern German name for wheat is "Weizen", so "weiz" and "weiss" are phonetically related; the term "weizen" developed from "weiss", after the light color of the the grain as well as it's flour). Weißbier therefore means nothing else but wheatbeer. Another reasons it's called "Weißbier" is that mid-19th century, some brewers in Munich replaced the dark malted barley with lighter malted wheat - or, more correctly, mixed light and dark malt, so the term weiss became a play of words (the color of Weißbier depends on the measure between barley and wheat malt). But originally, "weiss" is old-Bavarian for "wheat". Whether or not the final fermentation process happens in the bottle or in a large tank depends solely on the brewery/ brand. Traditionally, the yeast ferments inside the bottle, which is called "Flaschengärung" in German. I should know, since I am currently drinking one of these: http://www.steerweisse.de/ (which ranks among the best Weissbiere I have ever had). Look at the label which says "Original Flaschengärung". Ok, now you in turn are free to lecture me on Southern gravy, and grits..... And I expect a shipment of your finest.
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#2582779 - 09/07/08 03:45 PM
Re: Heffe, er Hewfe, er Hefe, er Wheat Beer rocks!!!!!
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Son of Hades
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You can sure believe whatever you want to believe. I'll go with what I learned from the beer expert,Michael Jackson(RIP),any day. You can go with whatever you want, but your statement is still wrong. Sorry. I'm really not looking for an argument, but in this case you are mistaken. Maybe you'll believe the Augustiner Brewery (one of the most renowned Munich breweries): http://www.augustiner-braeu.de/augustiners/flash/page/en_augustiner_bigbase.htmlCheck out their Weissbier under "assortment", and read for yourself how that product - clearly named Weissbier - ripens. "This beer receives its easy digestibleness and its delicate spicy taste from its fermentation, up to full maturity, in bottles and its careful storage within Augustiner's own ripening vaults." You have noticed that I actually am from Bavaria, haven't you?  Should you ever manage to come to Munich I'd be glad to arrange a visit at a local brewery for you - beer tasting included.
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#2582926 - 09/07/08 07:38 PM
Re: Heffe, er Hewfe, er Hefe, er Wheat Beer rocks!!!!!
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Erdinger Dunkel FTW!!!!!!
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#2583150 - 09/08/08 06:19 AM
Re: Heffe, er Hewfe, er Hefe, er Wheat Beer rocks!!!!!
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Hail to the Weissbier!  PS: The clear stuff on the bottom of the glass is lemonade, it's called a "Russ'n" in Bavaria. 
Edited by Para_Bellum (09/08/08 06:22 AM)
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#2583152 - 09/08/08 06:22 AM
Re: Heffe, er Hewfe, er Hefe, er Wheat Beer rocks!!!!!
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