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#2408822 - 12/26/07 03:57 PM Re: Tis the Season to be jolly... [Re: Dante-JT]
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 Originally Posted By: Dante-JT
but its based on the artistic depictions of the 'Bomb Alley' by argentinean air force captain Exequiel Martinez:


i'm sure theres videos around that shows it but you could ask around about it.

some artists over exaggerate what happens...
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#2408831 - 12/26/07 04:13 PM Re: Tis the Season to be jolly... [Re: Dante-JT]
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Hi Dante, good stuff, thanks for posting the Video and Screen. On the video I'm sure I saw what looked like missiles, especially on the second run?

Regards, hope you had a good Christmas!

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#2408842 - 12/26/07 04:27 PM Re: Tis the Season to be jolly... [Re: joey45]
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 Originally Posted By: joey45
 Originally Posted By: Dante-JT
but its based on the artistic depictions of the 'Bomb Alley' by argentinean air force captain Exequiel Martinez:

i'm sure theres videos around that shows it but you could ask around about it.
some artists over exaggerate what happens...



yup.. although this artist guy has been there as one of the pilots...but indeed, looks like he added a pinch of artistical drama - I think the real thing should be like half the density/puff size of what we have now (for 40mm flak) and about 1/3 or less for 20mm - what do you guys think? Any vet here who has flown through a flak barrage in real life? (I'm pretty sure some of the SFP1forum's gentlemen have done it back in 'Nam)

HarryR: thanks \:\) Merry Christmas for u too! Oh yes there's some SeaDart/SeaWolf/SeaCat thrown in my direction but the guidance code for them are rubbish now, and the proximity fuses aren't working as advertised (lucky me!)


Edited by Dante-JT (12/26/07 04:34 PM)
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#2409003 - 12/27/07 03:38 AM Re: Tis the Season to be jolly... [Re: Dante-JT]
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Great as always DanteJT.

Can't wait....


Happy new year for you and the team.... specially for those "down under".
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#2409457 - 12/27/07 01:42 PM Re: Tis the Season to be jolly... [Re: GADGET]
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I have the distinct feeling I am going to LOVE THIS SIM!!!! Great work guys!
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#2409469 - 12/27/07 01:59 PM Re: Tis the Season to be jolly... [Re: Colt40Five]
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Cool low-level action. The flak burst interval looks awfully regular, though. Did the burst really explode with that metronomic quality in the Falklans conflict?

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#2409483 - 12/27/07 02:24 PM Re: Tis the Season to be jolly... [Re: Joe]
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Cool low-level action. The flak burst interval looks awfully regular, though. Did the burst really explode with that metronomic quality in the Falklans conflict?


I don't think so... but what happens in the simulation now, is that the 20mm and 40mm shipborne AA batteries have a constant rate of fire (about 120 rounds/min), and the controlling AI is instructed to leave the trigger squeezed until running out of ammo if an attacking aircraft flies inside their range radius.

Every round explodes atm (they have a timing fuse variable, located in the respective ammo cfg file)
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#2409587 - 12/27/07 05:36 PM Re: Tis the Season to be jolly... [Re: Dante-JT]
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I don't know whether or not they're too large, but I'll bet they looked very large to him.

Dante-JT, should not the twenty millimeter gun have a significantly higher rate of fire than 120 R.P.M.?

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#2409869 - 12/28/07 07:00 AM Re: Tis the Season to be jolly... [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: Benny Moore
I don't know whether or not they're too large, but I'll bet they looked very large to him.
Dante-JT, should not the twenty millimeter gun have a significantly higher rate of fire than 120 R.P.M.?


Yup, the 20mm shipborne Oerlikon (the GAM BO1 used in the Falklands) has a rate of fire of 900 rounds per minute, but I've disabled 'em, so you see only the 40mm Bofors in the video. The issue is that the AI is deadly accurate now and with a 900 rounds per minute rate, we're instantly dead as soon as we enter effective range radius - of course this needs a lot of work, in reality these weapons weren't radar controlled and were basically WWII tech, unable to be really effective against low flying high speed targets.
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#2412126 - 12/31/07 01:18 PM Re: Tis the Season to be jolly... [Re: piper]
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First thanks for continuing the game with love! I appreciate that, and I just got a system that should run it well!

But...

I think the yellow/orange 'boom' effect from the flak should last just a fraction of what it lasts now. I think the visualization we see before the black puff lasts too long.

Also, the sound WILL get annoying before long if there isn't some variation on the volume and some '3D'/doppler effect for the flak.

Also, on the fly-by, the very end should be drawn out a little longer.

Thanks for considering my input.

Happy holidays!!!


Edited by exhausted (12/31/07 01:18 PM)
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