#2362556 - 10/24/07 08:24 PM
CoD4 "Realism" mode.
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According to an interview I saw with Infinity Ward, CoD4 will ship with a "one shot, one kill" "realism mode".
This should help make the game more tactical.
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#2362560 - 10/24/07 08:29 PM
Re: CoD4 "Realism" mode.
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I think it will still be a shootfest. One shot = One kill is nice but the never-ending respawning enemies isn't very tactical or realistic.....IMO.
I'm a reasonable guy, but I've just experienced some very unreasonable things...
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#2363115 - 10/25/07 03:28 PM
Re: CoD4 "Realism" mode.
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Server? So is this mode for SP or MP or both?
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#2363171 - 10/25/07 04:19 PM
Re: CoD4 "Realism" mode.
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A good campaign doesn't need to be 40 hours long, I'd rather have it be good and short than 6 good hours with 15 hours of filler, backtracking or trial and error. Plus that's on normal, if you can blast through it in 4 hours on normal then you are playing on the wrong difficulty level.
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#2363183 - 10/25/07 04:38 PM
Re: CoD4 "Realism" mode.
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I'm looking forward to the SP mode, but I'm really looking at it as practice for MP.
If I can milk the SP game for about 8-10 hours I'll be happy. I'll be spending most of my time in MP.
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#2363294 - 10/25/07 07:12 PM
Re: CoD4 "Realism" mode.
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The "one shot, one kill" remark was mine, not theirs. My fault for paraphrasing.
What they said was, you can be killed by a single shot. But I didn't take that to mean that a single shot, anywhere on the body, is lethal.
The developer said that, generally, the first mods that get made for the CoD series have been "realism" mods and they simply decided to make one themselves and include it with the game when it ships.
I see this as a good thing, especially for those who may wish to play the game at a slower pace. You're free to use the mode or not.
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#2363297 - 10/25/07 07:14 PM
Re: CoD4 "Realism" mode.
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I guess I should have stated it this way - 1-shot = 1-kill is better than nothing, but it's not perfect, or realistic, or tactical. Truth is, I don't want ultra-realism, but I don't want ultra-arcade either. I'm tired of fighting endless hordes of Rambos!!! Yeah sure, a bullet can hit someone and not kill them, but it frequently would incapacitate them, or at least severely limit them. Too often in these FPSs, the enemy gets knocked down, only to shake it off and be back to 100% in a matter of seconds. Some games are designed to be this "Hollywood" but don't stick some half-cocked "damage" model (using this term very loosely here) in and call it realism.....that's all I'm saying. And don't even get me started on difficulty levels.....
Having said that, I am rather surprised CoD4 is attempting a realism mode. The existing model has been very good for them, why change. If it's because people are complaining then the devs should take some time and do something more than just 1-shot = 1-kill, IMO.
I'm a reasonable guy, but I've just experienced some very unreasonable things...
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#2363304 - 10/25/07 07:19 PM
Re: CoD4 "Realism" mode.
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The "one shot, one kill" remark was mine, not theirs. My fault for paraphrasing.
What they said was, you can be killed by a single shot. But I didn't take that to mean that a single shot, anywhere on the body, is lethal.
The developer said that, generally, the first mods that get made for the CoD series have been "realism" mods and they simply decided to make one themselves and include it with the game when it ships.
I see this as a good thing, especially for those who may wish to play the game at a slower pace. You're free to use the mode or not. Cool, I guess we'll see. What a novel idea - if realism mods are the first to be made, maybe that's what gameplayers want!!! Can enemies in SP be killed by 1 shot, or just the player, or again, does this only effect MP?
I'm a reasonable guy, but I've just experienced some very unreasonable things...
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#2363310 - 10/25/07 07:21 PM
Re: CoD4 "Realism" mode.
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In the SP demo you can kill guys in one shot.
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#2366797 - 10/30/07 10:50 PM
Re: CoD4 "Realism" mode.
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The AK-47/AKM packs more punch than the usual .223 weapons since it's of a larger calibre and with a relatively weak propellant charge compared to bullet weight. It means it won't overpenetrate as much and is a mean bugger against soft targets. At least unarmored soft targets. The .223 tumbles more after it has hit something, but I don't know how mean a smashed 7.62 tumbling through your body is on the other hand. I don't know about AK-74s though since their ammunition is fairly similar to .223. And the RPGs aren't that inaccurate, but for some kind of balance when you have 1200 enemies charging at you in an area where the longest distances will be 100m, then I suppose they had to make it like that
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#2366831 - 10/30/07 11:25 PM
Re: CoD4 "Realism" mode.
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If you think of kills as just being rendered "combat ineffective" then most games with 1 or 2 shot "kills" make sense. For a most games it doesn't make sense to have someone alive but unable to participate because of injury.
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#2366852 - 10/30/07 11:57 PM
Re: CoD4 "Realism" mode.
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I think that modeling injury to humans in a FPS should be no more difficult to do than modeling parts of an airplane being crippled in an air combat sim. Planes can lose rudder, flaps, aelerons, gear, guns, etc. Why can't a human lose the use of an arm and only be allowed to finish with a pistol till he dies? Shouldn't be that hard. In ArmA, if you get your legs shot up you can't walk or stand.
I think I'd like to see injury with diminished capacity and no health packs in a "realism" mod.
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