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#2330168 - 09/03/07 12:39 AM Re: CH rudder [Re: AlphaOneSix]  
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Originally Posted By: AlphaOneSix
The Comanche can't have toe brakes because it doesn't have pedals, so I'm not sure how their brakes work.

so how it use for rotate?
thanx


map of fort rucker would be best for combat helly sims, so could be only flight and fight with learning targets without war, so that will more realistic
i'm not pacifist, just don't love war and dont love play war either
#2330175 - 09/03/07 12:47 AM Re: CH rudder [Re: MIGHAIL]  
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If I remember correctly the cyclic twists for directional control. Additionally, the cyclic for the Comanche is on the armrest, not between the pilot's legs.

#2330225 - 09/03/07 02:01 AM Re: CH rudder [Re: AlphaOneSix]  
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heh, i still belived that, what twist is good control like my sidewinder:)
thanx for answer
yes i sew what cyclic in comanche not berween the pilot's legs:) thanx again


map of fort rucker would be best for combat helly sims, so could be only flight and fight with learning targets without war, so that will more realistic
i'm not pacifist, just don't love war and dont love play war either
#2330226 - 09/03/07 02:02 AM Re: CH rudder [Re: MIGHAIL]  
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in f-16 too:)

Last edited by MIGHAIL; 09/03/07 02:33 AM.

map of fort rucker would be best for combat helly sims, so could be only flight and fight with learning targets without war, so that will more realistic
i'm not pacifist, just don't love war and dont love play war either
#2330244 - 09/03/07 02:38 AM Re: CH rudder [Re: MIGHAIL]  
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yet, too, and either in russion sound can be ishshyo with other words how - takzhe, snova, opyat(t like titi) - too, either, again; respectively, even again will eshshyo 2, so i used yet in unedit post:)
10x 4 patient:)

Last edited by MIGHAIL; 09/03/07 02:54 AM.

map of fort rucker would be best for combat helly sims, so could be only flight and fight with learning targets without war, so that will more realistic
i'm not pacifist, just don't love war and dont love play war either
#2330359 - 09/03/07 11:07 AM Re: CH rudder [Re: MIGHAIL]  
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Originally Posted By: MIGHAIL
... ishshyo ... takzhe, snova, opyat(t like titi) - too, either, again; respectively, even again will eshshyo 2, so i used yet in unedit post:)
10x 4 patient:)


#2330373 - 09/03/07 12:04 PM Re: CH rudder [Re: Kassie]  
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pardon:) we talked about comanche tail control, and after AlphaOneSix say what is twist on cyclic, and noticed what in comanche cyclic not between the pilot's leg, but is on the armrest, i say thanks and what i guessed what twisthndle likle in my sidewinder can be good in some flight real systems, after i say what i sew in comanche cyclic so know what this not between pilot's legs, and atleast i say wrong word in english, i say in f-16 yet(stick which control bank and lift like cyclic in chopers on the armrest)
yet is russ sound ishshyo or eshshyo too, so i edit and say "f-16 too"(got joy on armrest), but not "f-16 yet", and after some words about similarity russian and english, but notice about word ishshyo which mean every thing wtif about:)

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map of fort rucker would be best for combat helly sims, so could be only flight and fight with learning targets without war, so that will more realistic
i'm not pacifist, just don't love war and dont love play war either
#2330380 - 09/03/07 12:29 PM Re: CH rudder [Re: MIGHAIL]  
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i think if chopters haven't enought speed cyclic can control only bank(bank forward, bank back, bank left, bank right) without lift like in f-16:) but with simple analog, cyclic and collective could be respectively joy and throttle, for harrier, in hover hold, particular

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map of fort rucker would be best for combat helly sims, so could be only flight and fight with learning targets without war, so that will more realistic
i'm not pacifist, just don't love war and dont love play war either
#2330755 - 09/03/07 11:49 PM Re: CH rudder [Re: MIGHAIL]  
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Kassie ive been using the Saitek pedals you have for a while now. The Toe Brake function is aimed at fixed wing flight sims as far as i can tell. Just set your pedals to rudder and use the twist action. You can also set a small dead zone so you dont tend to over steer, as you will tend to "wag the tail" a bit until you get used to flying with pedals.
Also You will find you will have to relearn your flying a little, but using pedals really adds to the flight sim experience, now you can start saving for your Trackir ;\)

#2330912 - 09/04/07 07:25 AM Re: CH rudder [Re: Colonel_Kurtz]  
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Quote:
The Toe Brake function is aimed at fixed wing flight sims as far as i can tell.

Thanks for sharing.

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Just set your pedals to rudder and use the twist action. You can also set a small dead zone so you dont tend to over steer, as you will tend to "wag the tail" a bit until you get used to flying with pedals.

I keep that one in mind. Saitek's default settings works pretty well.

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Also You will find you will have to relearn your flying a little, but using pedals really adds to the flight sim experience, ...

I already agree with that.

Learning it, comes quite natural. By the way, I never used the rocker switch on my HOTAS much.

But what are the right settings? For the blue force: press down the right rudder to move to the ... .

Anyway, I play Comanche all the time. It doens't have rudder pedals in real live!!! Argghh. So far my simulation intentions. \:\( Well, anyway, I think I'm going to expand my experience with the Russian helis, which comes more difficult to me.

Originally Posted By: Colonel_Kurtz
now you can start saving for your Trackir ;\)

Nope, I'm done. I have a:

1. TrackIR
2. HOTAS (Saitek X-45)
3. rudder pedals (Saitek "Pro Flight")
4. voice recognition (€15 head set)

I'm satisfied for now.

#2330921 - 09/04/07 08:53 AM Re: CH rudder [Re: Kassie]  
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Press down right rudder... to turn the nose to the right


I`m just the group commanders KA-52 driver, so I wanna KA-50 all for myself...
#2333674 - 09/08/07 05:43 AM Re: CH rudder [Re: GCsDriver]  
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How many of you with rudder pedals have cross-coupling (a.k.a. tail mixing) off?

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#2333693 - 09/08/07 07:28 AM Re: CH rudder [Re: Reticuli]  
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On. But I have the rudder pedals for 1 week. Should I turn it off?

http://www.eechcentral.com/wiki/index.php?title=Dynamics#Cross_Couple

#2333713 - 09/08/07 09:10 AM Re: CH rudder [Re: Kassie]  
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Cross-couple "On" for me too.

#2333729 - 09/08/07 11:02 AM Re: rudder pedals [Re: Kassie]  
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Speaking of rudder pedals,,

I've got some Thrustmaster RCS pedals & want to hook em up..
I'm asking,,for suggestions as to what i need for the best results..
They have a Y cable with a serial (game port) connector,but my M$FF Sidewinder joy has USB..
Now,I've got another joy stick with serial connector that i could use,,but it has no throttle control..

I also have a couple older joysticks with throttle control,,with no twist control..

Does EECH recognize 2 separate control inputs?

Maybe i could have rudder pedals & joy connected together,,then a separate joy with throttle or buy a throttle control,,although i haven't seen just throttle for sale in stores...

#2333796 - 09/08/07 03:11 PM Re: rudder pedals [Re: dfang]  
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Originally Posted By: dfang
Does EECH recognize 2 separate control inputs?

You mean like this:



Hardware
- HOTAS
- rudder pedals
- gamepad (USB joystick)

#2333808 - 09/08/07 03:33 PM Re: rudder pedals [Re: Kassie]  
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Ahhh yes!
That's great,,I'm sure with all the Joy sticks I got laying around something can be made to work..

These pedals I've got are in really good shape,,bought em at a thrift shop,,$10.00 US.They do work,cause i tried em on another sim..

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