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#1779629 - 01/04/07 12:24 AM Israel, Panama, Others on the Way  
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From Frugal's - http://forums.frugalsworld.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=114807&page=1

I'm all for these, personally, but I want stability. I hope AFMOD can work with LP and eventually be able to release these as 'official' add-ons, like Stopworks and HiTiles....


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#1779630 - 01/04/07 06:02 AM Re: Israel, Panama, Others on the Way  
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Whether we can work with LP is a decision up to them. We have expressed our will to work with them many times.
Meanwhile these theaters are as stable as Korea and balkans.

#1779631 - 01/04/07 06:53 AM Re: Israel, Panama, Others on the Way  
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We all hope so, because while LP stakes their reputation on everything they release or approve for add-on, all you guys have to do is change your user name and hope nobody recognizes you if something goes wrong.
And before you say nothing can, I say let's see your ISO9000 written processes and procedures for testing and quality assurance/inspection before release.
Murphy is watching... \:\)


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#1779632 - 01/04/07 12:33 PM Re: Israel, Panama, Others on the Way  
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I'd like to see LP's after they released 109 with the AoA bracket 4 miles long! Final release acceptance testing, anyone?

;\)

#1779633 - 01/04/07 03:05 PM Re: Israel, Panama, Others on the Way  
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True enough. Should have been caught, and it cost them some rep and time/money in the rework. All the more reason to be cautious. The good folks trying to add theaters to improve gameplay ultimately have nothing to loose, however.


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#1779634 - 01/04/07 04:17 PM Re: Israel, Panama, Others on the Way  
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Isn't it easy to sit on the sidelines and snipe?

#1779635 - 01/04/07 04:45 PM Re: Israel, Panama, Others on the Way  
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Yes it is Paul, apologies, my post wasn't meant to sound as facetious as it appeared. For what it's worth I am very appreciative of LP's efforts, it would be easier for them to have left the problems in and made no attempt to fix them, just an oversight that diddled the AoA bracket (which in itself is not a stopper). I've "been there" myself so I understand how it happens and as you say it's easier to point out standing aside than it is to fix yourself!

#1779636 - 01/04/07 05:31 PM Re: Israel, Panama, Others on the Way  
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Cowboy, I think he was refering to me. \:\)

I don't mean to belittle the new mods at all. I think it is great that they are motivated and talented enough to attempt it.

As a business, your customers have an expectation that a product will work correctly (enough to satisfy), else the 'market' may quickly determine your future--and it could be short!
But with freelancers I have no expectation, only a hope, that their product will perform. So I personally will wait and see how the wind blows before hoisting sail, because I'm just not cut out to be a 'beta tester'.


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#1779637 - 01/04/07 06:41 PM Re: Israel, Panama, Others on the Way  
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Okay, I'm digging a bit at Frugal's. Here's C3PO's take:

Hi,
Stupid question maybe, but why not offer the theater back to LP for proper support? maybe we get the missing features as well?
Drummer


Because the amount of man hours required to properly test the theater can be spent on much more productive activities ... like the next commercial release. We're very clear about the theater issue in Allied Force and will continue to be so. Sorry if it's not what people want to hear but we might as well clear it up here and now. C3PO

This was out of this thread - http://forums.frugalsworld.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=103234&page=3

That's fine - it's good to hear they're working on the next product and I'm sure they'll come out with new theaters for that release and into the future as "Battlefield Operations" takes shape.


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#1779638 - 01/07/07 04:06 AM Re: Israel, Panama, Others on the Way  
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Resources are better spent on things that WILL happen, than developing a feature to support a MAY be fully functional. Priorities.


What WW2 Fighter pilots say about Angels and Airspeed:

"Nice job of getting down to the basics - love your choice of a cover!" Col. Clarence 'Bud' Anderson

"I have enjoyed reading angels and airspeed, it should prove good reading for all interested in combat tactics and their application related to the fluid air environment and state of technology in WWII years. All the best as you make it available." - Col. Charles McGee - Tuskegee Airman

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#1779639 - 01/07/07 04:38 PM Re: Israel, Panama, Others on the Way  
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Quote:
Originally posted by CowboyOneOne:
I'd like to see LP's after they released 109 with the AoA bracket 4 miles long! Final release acceptance testing, anyone?

;\)
lol, it was a tad long, but still fully functional. It did not effect stability nor functionality.

Definitely not enough of an issue to delay the rest of the patch for a new installer package.


What WW2 Fighter pilots say about Angels and Airspeed:

"Nice job of getting down to the basics - love your choice of a cover!" Col. Clarence 'Bud' Anderson

"I have enjoyed reading angels and airspeed, it should prove good reading for all interested in combat tactics and their application related to the fluid air environment and state of technology in WWII years. All the best as you make it available." - Col. Charles McGee - Tuskegee Airman

NEVER ENGAGE STUPID.

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