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#1774719 - 08/03/06 10:04 AM FAC is FAC'ed!!  
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Greetings all
I've been playing FalconAF, on and off ,ever since version 1.0. There have been some wonderfull improvements and additions with the updates during that time and just want to say I certainly appreciate the support from lead pursuit.

However.....
One update feature that never seems to work for me is the "FAC" missions. I've read the forums on a few websites but no info as to what i'm doing wrong. in fact forum discussions seem to end up claiming that this is a "bug" with the game. If this really is a bug, why the hell has it not been fixed by now!

My basic problem is that no-one ever checks in with me. I've checked the mission breifings and see that i have a 4 ship BAI flight assigned to me. Yes they take off behind me and follow me to the patrol point, where I promptly check in with awacs, and then they follow me around at the patrol point but simply do nothing. Nor can i give them any commands. I've waded through all of the possible comm's options but i can't give any commands. I've tried combinations of locking onto ground targets and even using WillePete but to no avail.

If FAC missions were a rare occurence, I wouldn't give a hoot, but they are actually quite frequent on the mission generation list. Unfortunately i'm missing out on a good portion of missions.

Thankyou to anyone who can give me some help here....


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#1774720 - 08/03/06 10:22 AM Re: FAC is FAC'ed!!  
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check Frugals post by daver for explanation of how to get FAC to work

heres the link
Frugals

or heres the post
Quote:
I am getting many FAC missions with no On Call CAS flights in the package. I have created some instructions for myself to create the proper strike flight, but it is a bit of a pain. These were written for me to use, but I am going ahead and sharing them in case someone wants it. They include another bug work around in step zero.

Instructions for getting FAC to work.

FAC requires On-Call CAS flight in the same area. If the original package includes a BAI or other CAS type, use the following instructions to replace the strike flight with one of the correct type.

0. Work around an initialization bug preventing creation of flights
- Open order of battle
- select US
- right click an airbase and select Add Package
- Click New and select any F-16 type
- Click cancel
- Click cancel
- Click Close

1. Verify the type of the strike flight.
- Select the FAC mission you wish to fly
- Click the ATO button to see the other flights in this package

2. If there is no On-Call CAS flight add or replace the other flight:
- Close the ATO window
- Change the simulation speed to Stop
- Click the Flight Plan button to note the package number
- Close the Flight Plan window
- Click the ATO button to open the Air Tasking Order
- Click Show All Packages
- Expand Interdiction if that is the type of your flight (BAI)
- Find your flight
- Right click the package and select Show Flights
- Write down the aircraft type, airbase, and squadron of the strike flight
in my example it is:
4 F-16C-52
Seosan Airbase
120th Fighter Squadron
- Select the strike flight to replace and click Delete
This should be done first to ensure the planes are free for the flight we are about to create
- Click New
- Select the strike aircraft type, airbase, and squadron
- Select On Call CAS as the mission type
- Click OK (if there are no aircraft available you may need to use a different squadron because the AI has already reused the aircraft)
- Click Ok
- Click Close

When you fly your FAC mission, your newly created flight will check in and be available.

#1774721 - 08/03/06 11:23 AM Re: FAC is FAC'ed!!  
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Fac works just fine, but you need to check in with Awacs using the FAC In command. Then you listen for the flights as they check in. It works just fine, for me the best missions I've flown points and medal awards have been as the FAC.

Tanks
Andy

#1774722 - 08/03/06 04:15 PM Re: FAC is FAC'ed!!  
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FAC works fine. If the mission is a BAI or a CAS, if the flight don't need your help they don't check in. If the mission is on-call CAS, they always ask for targets. There is a PDF file that explain all this in the Doc folder in your main falcon AF folder.

Eric


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#1774723 - 08/03/06 10:16 PM Re: FAC is FAC'ed!!  
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Can anyone tell me why AWACS constantly sends my BAI guys off against air targets? I thought there was another flight haneling that?

#1774724 - 08/04/06 09:06 AM Re: FAC is FAC'ed!!  
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Ok... thanks for your replies

It would seem then, that FAC misions are not really FAC'ed, just FAC'en boring. Oh well, I suppose that means it's a good mission to do If I want to get flight hours up on my character.


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#1774725 - 08/04/06 10:55 AM Re: FAC is FAC'ed!!  
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Yes it's true FAC missions can be bery boring but on other and they can be very surprising with flights going to check in with you even if they aren't listed in your briefing but sadly this is not often. And in fact playing FAC for BAI or CAS flight is often a 30min patrol for nothing \:\( .

For D52 : if a flight has no more AG weapons the awacs cand give them some air targets or if the guy in the AWACS don't agree with the mission objectives, it can give air targets !!! This is the wonderful world of Falcon !!! Trully dynamic !!

Eric.


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#1774726 - 08/04/06 06:35 PM Re: FAC is FAC'ed!!  
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Quote:
Originally posted by ericfa2a:
Yes it's true FAC missions can be bery boring but on other and they can be very surprising with flights going to check in with you even if they aren't listed in your briefing but sadly this is not often. And in fact playing FAC for BAI or CAS flight is often a 30min patrol for nothing \:\( .

For D52 : if a flight has no more AG weapons the awacs cand give them some air targets or if the guy in the AWACS don't agree with the mission objectives, it can give air targets !!! This is the wonderful world of Falcon !!! Trully dynamic !!

Eric.
Yeah, that's great until you LISTEN to awacs, divert, kill what you should, and then get a mission failed. \:\(

hehe


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#1774727 - 08/04/06 06:56 PM Re: FAC is FAC'ed!!  
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Is it possible to design a FAC mission in the TE?

#1774728 - 08/04/06 10:18 PM Re: FAC is FAC'ed!!  
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Quote:
Originally posted by Rufus:
Is it possible to design a FAC mission in the TE?
Yep, see my website. It was made with a previous patch and I haven't tried it with the new patch.

If you try it out let me know if it works.

Thanks
Curtis


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