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#1752335 - 09/17/05 07:10 PM Two new files added!  
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it's being reported 2 new files have been added.
bpadlock.dat
bcockpit.dat
Apparently, a few people have reported, their addon pits no longer work.

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#1752336 - 09/17/05 08:22 PM Re: Two new files added!  
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yep. Scott will need to edit his pit's to be compatible, or find another way to hack it in.


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#1752337 - 09/17/05 09:07 PM Re: Two new files added!  

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well for ounce I like drStop cockpit better than the original, it is that much clearer, my eyesight is not what it used to be and I hope that he will get a Patch for it, LP should stay away if they are going to make a good thing go bad.

#1752338 - 09/17/05 09:58 PM Re: Two new files added!  
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I have seen the screenshot of Dr Stop's pit and it sure does look nice and clear. I tried messing around with my PC resolution and AF resolution to get something that is clearer than what we have now, but I cant seem to get a clear looking pit. If I had a credit card or another way to pay over the Internet, I would probably get the Dr Stop pit.

#1752339 - 09/17/05 10:17 PM Re: Two new files added!  
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As these two files are in the block50 art folder, it's obvious that it's a deliberate shot over the bow at Dr. Stop. Didn't have the pit, but it sure was pretty.

#1752340 - 09/17/05 10:21 PM Re: Two new files added!  
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Quote:
Originally posted by Fitz505:
As these two files are in the block50 art folder, it's obvious that it's a deliberate shot over the bow at Dr. Stop. Didn't have the pit, but it sure was pretty.
Yep... not surprising at all. I am sure the usual people will complain about how unfair it is, ignoring how unfair it is when someone else makes money off your property.

Or, I guess these same people would allow someone to set up shop in their home and make money without giving them a cut...

RB

#1752341 - 09/17/05 11:22 PM Re: Two new files added!  

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I am not concerned about the legallity of it,only the end result, take a better quality product and make it lesser, this in itself is a caveman approched let the people with the knowhow help, make this sim the BEST it can be, We are very few amongs gamers who like that gendre if LP wanted to make a buck,they better crank out FPS titles instead. As for stability we all know it was working fine. Please find a solution to this!

#1752342 - 09/18/05 04:52 AM Re: Two new files added!  
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Quote:
Originally posted by Fitz505:
it's being reported 2 new files have been added.
bpadlock.dat
bcockpit.dat
Apparently, a few people have reported, their addon pits no longer work.

Fitz
wow!!
any comment(s) from LP on this lockout of these addon pits?
Was it deliberate or unintentional?
If this lockout was deliberate will LP be spending valuable time coding patches to lock out other addons they don't want to see in their game instead of trying to fix problems with the sim itself?


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#1752343 - 09/18/05 08:57 AM Re: Two new files added!  
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Quote:
Originally posted by Razorback:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Fitz505:
[qb] Yep... not surprising at all. I am sure the usual people will complain about how unfair it is, ignoring how unfair it is when someone else makes money off your property.

Or, I guess these same people would allow someone to set up shop in their home and make money without giving them a cut...

RB
\:D

You have a really poor understanding of property, looks like that RIAA brainwash is actually working to some degree in the USofA.

#1752344 - 09/18/05 10:02 AM Re: Two new files added!  

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Quote:
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Quote:
Originally posted by Fitz505:
As these two files are in the block50 art folder, it's obvious that it's a deliberate shot over the bow at Dr. Stop. Didn't have the pit, but it sure was pretty.
Yep... not surprising at all. I am sure the usual people will complain about how unfair it is, ignoring how unfair it is when someone else makes money off your property.

Or, I guess these same people would allow someone to set up shop in their home and make money without giving them a cut...

RB
Ok Sir, now answer me please:

Question 1:
What would LP lose allowing Mr. Stop to make money from a Falcon AF addon?

Question 2:
What does LP earn from these fools jokes? Liking? Consents? I think the contrary one....

Question 3:
Is it so important to possess the monopoly and the absolute power on a software piece...?


And... don't forget that Dr. Stop has only converted a product that had been born BEFORE Falcon AF.

Last questions:
Has not Mr.Aeyes earned thanks to the own cockpits.. the cockpits now in Falcon AF? Does he want to earn only him?

#1752345 - 09/18/05 10:08 AM Re: Two new files added!  
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LP should consider that Stopworks' cockpit and the upcoming hitilesAF were the only reason F4AF is still on my pc.

#1752346 - 09/18/05 12:51 PM Re: Two new files added!  
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Question 1:
What would LP lose allowing Mr. Stop to make money from a Falcon AF addon?

Answer :
It would open the door to a slippery slope.
Once you let mods happen in this way... you will have to let others do the same.
It has been clear from the start, that THIS way... is NOT the way LP wants to do it !

Question 2:
What does LP earn from these fools jokes? Liking? Consents? I think the contrary one....

Answer :
Does not make a difference, its theirs to do as they please. They have the lease on the ip.
When the someone else puts their Ass on the line, they will have the same right... NO ONE ELSE HAS !!!

Question 3:
Is it so important to possess the monopoly and the absolute power on a software piece...?

Answer :
First... see above answer.
Then consider this....
You Buy a new car.... I make no investment in you auto, but want to take people around the city for Free... or even for a Fee.
I cant understand why you would be angry !
I made NO INVESTMENT in the production or purchase of your Auto.
I dont pay insurance, or maintanence... But I think you are a jerk because you wont let me have my way with your Auto like a I would a Cheap whore !!


I for one Kind Sirs, am Glad LP does NOT want AF to be a Cheap Whore !!!!!

Anyways...........

Budds...................

#1752347 - 09/18/05 01:22 PM Re: Two new files added!  
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Quote:
Originally posted by Budds:

Then consider this....
You Buy a new car.... I make no investment in you auto, but want to take people around the city for Free... or even for a Fee.
I cant understand why you would be angry !
I made NO INVESTMENT in the production or purchase of your Auto.
I dont pay insurance, or maintanence... But I think you are a jerk because you wont let me have my way with your Auto like a I would a Cheap whore !!


I for one Kind Sirs, am Glad LP does NOT want AF to be a Cheap Whore !!!!!

Anyways...........

Budds...................
I buy a car.. the car is mine, I can change the motor if I like... I can paint it...I can take off the Jeep emblem, and replace it with a Ford emblem if I like, I can take people for rides in it and charge them for it, I can sell the car with the ford emblem on it, the car is mine. I can do with it what I want. I can call it a cheap whore if I like... you can call it a cheap whore...I don't care the car is mine.
The Falcon CD is mine, I can do with it what I want.....


#1752348 - 09/18/05 01:33 PM Re: Two new files added!  
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I buy a car.. the car is mine, I can change the motor if I like... I can paint it...I can take off the Jeep emblem, and replace it with a Ford emblem if I like, I can take people for rides in it and charge them for it, I can sell the car with the ford emblem on it, the car is mine. I can do with it what I want. I can call it a cheap whore if I like... you can call it a cheap whore...I don't care the car is mine.
The Falcon CD is mine, I can do with it what I want.....


All which is true.....
But the manufacture does NOT have to support you !
They do not have to offer warranty to aftermarket mods.
They do not have to trouble shoot your aftermarket mods.
And they can change the way they make the Auto at anytime they please.

What is it that LP is doing that is SOOOOooo Wrong here ?

What is your point ?

Budds..............

#1752349 - 09/18/05 01:39 PM Re: Two new files added!  
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I have an add-on Custom Air Conditioner from my 1967 Ford Falcon Van.

I would like to use it in my Ford 2004 Expedition, but hell if it dont install the same way.

DAMN YOU FORD !!!!!!


Budds............

#1752350 - 09/18/05 01:43 PM Re: Two new files added!  
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Quote:
Originally posted by Budds:

All which is true.....
But the manufacture does NOT have to support you !
They do not have to offer warranty to aftermarket mods.
They do not have to trouble shoot your aftermarket mods.
And they can change the way they make the Auto at anytime they please.

What is it that LP is doing that is SOOOOooo Wrong here ?

What is your point ?

Budds..............
I don't care if the manufacturer doesn't support me, I could care less if they don't trouble shoot my emblem mod, if they change the way they make my car, and I don't like it I will go elsewhere next time I purchase a car. I won't fault the manufacturer of the car.
My point? can I be any clearer?


#1752351 - 09/18/05 01:46 PM Re: Two new files added!  
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Quote:
Originally posted by Budds:
I have an add-on Custom Air Conditioner from my 1967 Ford Falcon Van.

I would like to use it in my Ford 2004 Expedition, but hell if it dont install the same way.

DAMN YOU FORD !!!!!!


Budds............
I can make it fit!


#1752352 - 09/18/05 01:49 PM Re: Two new files added!  
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Quote:
Originally posted by Zuki:

The Falcon CD is mine, I can do with it what I want.....
....you might want to go re-read the "I accept" section of the installer.


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#1752353 - 09/18/05 01:56 PM Re: Two new files added!  
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WEll you seem to be posting directly at me.
But all you do is agree with me really ?

Do what you want !
Just dont try to make LP the "Bad Guy" !
Thats my Point.... whats yours again ?

Fly AF patched 102... use whoever's pit.... mod the crap outta YOUR install !
Who CARES !!!!!!
But LP has every RIGHT to do whatever they want to future patches.
If you want the future updates, you go their way.
If not... you cant complain if they dont support YOUR install.... Right ?
( My 102 version was HEAVILY modified.... but I choose to go with 103. If I can make the old mods work with 103 or not has yet to be seen... but I wont blame LP if they dont work any longer ! )

The sticky wicket is where an outside developer offers a mod for a fee.... and the Sims structure changes.
Now people have paid for a mod they would "Like" to have supported by LP, but may not be able to use unless it is "fixed" by the Author, or the Sim strucure is altered to Support the "After Market" mod.
Who would YOU hold responsible ?

Budds...............

Budds..................

#1752354 - 09/18/05 02:20 PM Re: Two new files added!  
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Quote:
Originally posted by Budds:
WEll you seem to be posting directly at me.
But all you do is agree with me really ?

Do what you want !
Thank you.
Quote:
Originally posted by Budds:
Just dont try to make LP the "Bad Guy" !
I never said anything bad about LP.

Quote:
Originally posted by Budds:
Thats my Point.... whats yours again ?!
See your comment below

Quote:
Originally posted by Budds:
Fly AF patched 102... use whoever's pit.... mod the crap outta YOUR install !
Who CARES !!!!!! !
Quote:
Originally posted by Budds:
But LP has every RIGHT to do whatever they want to future patches.
If you want the future updates, you go their way.
If not... you cant complain if they dont support YOUR install.... Right ?
Correct

Quote:
Originally posted by Budds:
( My 102 version was HEAVILY modified.... but I choose to go with 103. If I can make the old mods work with 103 or not has yet to be seen... but I wont blame LP if they dont work any longer ! )

The sticky wicket is where an outside developer offers a mod for a fee.... and the Sims structure changes.
Now people have paid for a mod they would "Like" to have supported by LP, but may not be able to use unless it is "fixed" by the Author, or the Sim strucure is altered to Support the "After Market" mod.
Who would YOU hold responsible ?
No one


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