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#125371 - 11/10/06 07:01 PM Buy MCE2005 and get Vista Home Premium Free  
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I'm thinking of doing this deal because if I buy OEM MCE2005 for $135.00 CAD that is cheaper than buying Vista Home Premium when it is released and I get 2 OS's instead of just one. This is NCIX deal which is available to US and Canadian residents but I'm sure Newegg has the same deal. Anyone see any catch22's in this deal?

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=21369&manufacture=Others&promoid=1021


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#125373 - 11/10/06 07:24 PM Re: Buy MCE2005 and get Vista Home Premium Free  
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How can they stop me? If I have the product ID for both then I can use both.


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#125375 - 11/10/06 07:54 PM Re: Buy MCE2005 and get Vista Home Premium Free  
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How is it any sweat off their back if I use both? But you may be right and I will check into that right now.


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#125377 - 11/10/06 08:08 PM Re: Buy MCE2005 and get Vista Home Premium Free  
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OK, but there is nothing in their agreement about the Vista upgrade that states this so I doubt it is an issue. Using MCE2005 on one PC and Vista on the other is not the same as XP on two PC's. Only thing I'm really concerned about is that the upgrade is supposed to be part of a system purchase but NCIX says they clarified it with Microsoft and are saying it doesn't matter.


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#125379 - 11/10/06 08:45 PM Re: Buy MCE2005 and get Vista Home Premium Free  
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We'll see. I've put my feelers out so hopefully will get it clarified in a day or two.


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#125380 - 11/10/06 08:52 PM Re: Buy MCE2005 and get Vista Home Premium Free  
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It clearly states that you get an upgrade version of Vista. An upgrade version of Windows does not allow you to continue using the previous version on a seperate PC.

#125381 - 11/10/06 09:41 PM Re: Buy MCE2005 and get Vista Home Premium Free  
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I do when I use my Win98SE disk to verify my upgrade version of XP. It says it needs a previous version of Windows to upgrade from but it doesn't say I can't use it on another PC. I think you guys are correct though as someone on another forum said Microsoft disabled the product ID's when people upgraded from XP to XP64.


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#125382 - 11/10/06 10:24 PM Re: Buy MCE2005 and get Vista Home Premium Free  
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When I upgrade a Microsoft product, does my EULA for that product change?
Yes, the End User License Agreement (EULA) included with the upgrade version sets forth the license rights for both the original product and the upgrade. With every new upgrade product, you will receive a new EULA. Upgrade versions are treated as part of the whole product, because an upgrade often needs many of the basic components in the original software in order to run. This is true for both application and system product upgrades.

#125383 - 11/10/06 10:55 PM Re: Buy MCE2005 and get Vista Home Premium Free  
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OK, but XP upgrade doesn't need any of the components from the previous OS. EULA? What's that? If Microsoft turns it off or not from the mothership is all I'm concerned about.


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#125384 - 11/10/06 11:13 PM Re: Buy MCE2005 and get Vista Home Premium Free  
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btw if it's the same as the deals in the UK you have to pay MS a "shipping charge" for your Vista DVD.
Thing is that at least here nobody is yet willing to say how nuch the "shipping charge" actually is ...


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#125385 - 11/11/06 03:12 AM Re: Buy MCE2005 and get Vista Home Premium Free  
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Wow, So much paranoia in one thread. To think M$ will shut off that copy of XP MCE is ridiculous. I somehow doubt they keep a database of who has what copy of what running where. Sheesh


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#125386 - 11/11/06 06:16 AM Re: Buy MCE2005 and get Vista Home Premium Free  
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Upgrade = Install MCE2005 then Upgrade to Vista..... no run both, unless your Load Dual installs of MCE then Run Vista Upgrade on the other partition


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#125388 - 11/11/06 12:50 PM Re: Buy MCE2005 and get Vista Home Premium Free  
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Quote:
Originally posted by D.O./SkateZilla:
Upgrade = Install MCE2005 then Upgrade to Vista..... no run both, unless your Load Dual installs of MCE then Run Vista Upgrade on the other partition
No, upgrade just means you need to provide a copy of the previous OS cdrom, it doesn't mean you install
XP or MCE and then do an upgrade install to Vista.

My guess is there is nothing stopping you from using both and that is what I plan to do.


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#125389 - 11/11/06 12:58 PM Re: Buy MCE2005 and get Vista Home Premium Free  
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Originally posted by Gatticus:
I think you guys are correct though as someone on another forum said Microsoft disabled the product ID's when people upgraded from XP to XP64.
This is incorrect info I got. Another person has told me that his XP 32bit wasn't disabled when he upgraded to XP 64bit.

This is not a trade in program. It simply states that if you buy MCE2005 now you will get a free upgrade path to Vista Hoe Premium. I will be using MCE2005 on one PC and Vista on the other, all for the cost of $135.00 CAD. I'm with RookieCAF on this. \:\)


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#125391 - 11/11/06 07:44 PM Re: Buy MCE2005 and get Vista Home Premium Free  
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Quote:
Originally posted by Gatticus:
It simply states that if you buy MCE2005 now you will get a free upgrade path to Vista Hoe Premium.
& the clue is upgrade it's not a buy 1 get 1 free deal but a buy 1 get free replacement deal ...


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#125392 - 11/12/06 03:48 AM Re: Buy MCE2005 and get Vista Home Premium Free  
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by RookieCAF:
Wow, So much paranoia in one thread. To think M$ will shut off that copy of XP MCE is ridiculous. I somehow doubt they keep a database of who has what copy of what running where. Sheesh


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#125394 - 11/12/06 08:50 AM Re: Buy MCE2005 and get Vista Home Premium Free  
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Quote:
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Quote:
Originally posted by Gatticus:
It simply states that if you buy MCE2005 now you will get a free upgrade path to Vista Hoe Premium.
& the clue is upgrade it's not a buy 1 get 1 free deal but a buy 1 get free replacement deal ...
Where does it say that? It is indeed buy one now and get the other free later. Doesn't say anything about having to throw one in the trash when you upgrade to the other.


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#125395 - 11/12/06 02:56 PM Re: Buy MCE2005 and get Vista Home Premium Free  
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OK, There's already the upgrade version, the full version, and I assume a corporate version as well. Thats 3 seperate distributions, do you really think they'd do a 4th limited time only "Upgrade the buyers of a certain version of XP" edition would fit into the manufacturing scheme? I'm not the only one who is a little


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#125397 - 11/12/06 03:51 PM Re: Buy MCE2005 and get Vista Home Premium Free  
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I asked on a Microsoft Usenet group and they are saying it will be the upgrade version which according to the EULA (as Rilex points out) the XP/MCE license you upgrade from will become part of the Vista license so you can only have one or the other installed. I've never read the XP upgrade EULA so wasn't aware of that and continued to use Win98SE if I so chose. I thought you just had to own a previous copy of Windows to use the upgrade version of XP and didn't know you can no longer use it once you upgrade to XP. Ignorance is bliss. \:\)

I'm not breaking the EULA anyway as I have WinME on the other PC now and not the Win98SE I upgraded XP from. I can upgrade XP from four different OS's I own so it's not like I can't easily skirt the issue for any OS I choose to use. Want to use Win98SE? Then I just use one of my WinME/Win98/Win2K disks to upgrade XP from.


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Quote:
Originally posted by Gatticus:
Where does it say that? It is indeed buy one now and get the other free later. Doesn't say anything about having to throw one in the trash when you upgrade to the other.
"Microsoft Media Center 2005 OEM Now With *FREE Vista Upgrade"
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/expressupgrade.mspx
So it's an upgrade to the existing OS & as that on OEM is supposedly tied to the 1 PC you wouldn't be able to have 1 on 1 PC & the other on another.


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