Well.......back to basics......CS was right. I put everything back to square one...(one does have to manage screen/game res)....why not....I've nothing but time.....and he's right. Both WOTR and WOFF play better "out of the box" on default settings than with all the hoops I've been tweaking to "make things faster". I'm dead sure there are finesse moves for FPS by those that "know"...but for the "set to defaults", straight out of the box settings that the Devs must have worked on for years....it can't be beat. Try it....Thx CS